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EasySocial 2.1 Beta 3

EasySocial 2.1 Beta 3

We have been wanting to push out the RC release this week but there was this inner feeling that kept reminding me to get our act together or we would regret pushing this release out.


The problem

When we first unveiled Horizon, we included a cheeky tab in between the cover and the stream based on the feature request that we received. We did not spend more time trying to understand the fundamentals of such a request and just decided to slap the tab in between the cover and the stream. 

Navigation is everywhere


On the image above, you'll notice that these are the places that could be used to navigate when viewing another user's profile. It looks good because it is refreshing and new but when we started to receive feedback about the need of slapping these tabs everywhere else, we soon realized that this isn't the real solution. The underlying problem is still there as there are just too many links to click!


We had 2 options. The first was to just let everything be as it is and try to restructure it on the next major release (with a lot of guilt in our hearts). The second was to study the cover flow all over again and fix the underlying problem. We decided to go with the latter because it is crucial for us to get this right.


Not only because it made more sense, but there was this inner conscious that kept reminding me to get our act together or we would regret pushing this release out.


The solution

The underlying problem was simply because users are not aware or unsure about getting more details about another user. The reason for that is simply because there are too many links to click upon viewing another user's profile.

The draft


​Our designers came up with several different drafts and it was only until then that we realized the statistics under the footer are there entirely for cosmetics purposes. We decided to unify the navigation and have it placed underneath the cover instead.

New Navigation


Redefining Horizon theme

When I looked at Horizon, it was all looking pretty until I realized that it would also pose some problems with the aesthetics especially when the names and titles are long. This is one of the most important aspect of your profile, groups, events or even pages. On the contrary, the overlay was vertical and not horizontal as the theme's name suggests. We decided to stick with the name and go with a horizontal overlay instead. It just looked amazing and it solved all problems!  


As we still have time before pushing out Beta 3 (since we need to spend time revamping the cover flow) ​on the previous post, several users were also requesting for the possibility of changing the button colors in the settings. With Beta 3, one may now change the button colors in the settings. :)


Some other updates 

Button colors

While the designers were toying with those ideas, the developers also tried toying with several ideas based on customer feedback. The ability to change the color of the buttons on your site. 


This isn't just another simple color picker as we have a built-in algorithm that would beautify your buttons, regardless of any color that you pick. In essence, it would look great on just about any template.


Quick posting app

Since we had some spare time on our hands, we also developed a pretty cool plugin. This nifty plugin displays 5 different and individual bubbles in a pop-up form, each representing 5 different apps being integrated on your story form. It allow users to quickly post anything anywhere.

 

Comments (63)

wow! The Quick posting app looks awesome! =) Please go more in sight of Google Material. It would be cool to see a flat smooth Design with this product.

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  1.    joy

Thank you joy

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I am absolutely amazed by all this. Totally AWESOME. Actually beyond AWESOME.

It's such a well written and explained Blog post too. Thank you Mark for sharing the whole thought process with us, and of course to you and the team for your vision and drive.

What you've done here is GENIUS.

One bit made me laugh though... "Since we had some spare time on our hands"... Really!?! With everything you guys do I can't imagine you with spare time on your hands.

As I often say, thanks for the...

I am absolutely amazed by all this. Totally AWESOME. Actually beyond AWESOME.

It's such a well written and explained Blog post too. Thank you Mark for sharing the whole thought process with us, and of course to you and the team for your vision and drive.

What you've done here is GENIUS.

One bit made me laugh though... "Since we had some spare time on our hands"... Really!?! With everything you guys do I can't imagine you with spare time on your hands.

As I often say, thanks for the miracles!

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  1.    Andy

Thank you Andy, appreciate your input on this

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I am really thank to Stackideas team for your AWESOME design....Your always bring the brilliant ideas...

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  1.    saovry

Thank you

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It would be a huge thing if Giphy could be integrated in Komento, Easysocial, Easyblog and Easydiscuss please let it happen. Direct links are working like: https://media.giphy.com/media/I1UcjGLqbgTuM/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/I1UcjGLqbgTuM/giphy-downsized-large.gif[/img]

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  1.    joy

Thanks for your input on this! I just tested this and Giphy is already supported out of the box in EasySocial, http://easysocial.org/stream/item/470

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  1.    Mark

yeah but in the comments it doesn't work. Giphy like in skype. i can search directly for gifs as example.

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  1.    joy

I was thinking about Giphy integration like in Twitter (posts and comments)

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  1.    Tony Boutemeur

yeah me also. Would be awesome to got this feature!!!

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Hi Mark, as always, we are loving more and more what are you getting done guys !

I like the quick post plugin, please consider to add icons for other contents as Discussions and Blogs (ED, EB).
Why not custom icons for other purpose like adding joomla articles.

thanks again guys

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  1.    HMED

Thanks

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  1.    HMED

yes add also EB and ED please as quick posts

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Mark i know you are around

guys, i add a feature suggestion that hope you'll like, dont know what do you think about, its just crazy :

https://stackideas.com/forums/awesome-and-impressive-feauture-to-boost-websites-activites-used-in-marketing-sector

[img]https://www.usefomo.com/landing/images/landing/ipad_example.png[/img]

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  1.    HMED

Thanks, seems like a pretty cool feature!

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Hi Mark & Co. I have read this post from start to finish 3 times now and the best word I can think of enlightened! My only concern would be to have a unified way to control every thing in the header.

I am on holidays on a mobile so my egs may not be 100% correct.

Eg 1
I guess relates to ES core "features". I do not have pages or events on my site and would want to be able to turn off items such as these in the header Also photos are not so important for me. Groups are essential and I...

Hi Mark & Co. I have read this post from start to finish 3 times now and the best word I can think of enlightened! My only concern would be to have a unified way to control every thing in the header.

I am on holidays on a mobile so my egs may not be 100% correct.

Eg 1
I guess relates to ES core "features". I do not have pages or events on my site and would want to be able to turn off items such as these in the header Also photos are not so important for me. Groups are essential and I would want them up there.

A) If I remember correctly some of these features could be switched off easily in the back end but some required minor hacks to switch off.

B) I think photos neeed a hack and do not turn up in my site on a desktop but do on a mobile! In short a sililar switch effecting these items across the board in the same way on all devices would be great

Eg 2
If I am reading this correctly Apps would also go up into the bottom part of the header. So in my case the Hika Shop App would be way more obvious. Which is great. As I suspect no one sees it where it is now in the sidebar... Also sounds great

Eg 3
And this very specific but maybe there are other case examples. I have both the standard Easy Discuss and Easy Discuss Group App. If I remember correctly the standard Easy Discuss App shows in the header now but the Easy Discuss Group App does not.

Being able to control consistently if individual Apps such as the ED App & ED Group App show up in the header along with stuff in Eg 01 & 02 would really help me focus people on the functionality that I want to offer them. One way or the other I think this all goes in the right direction.

As a final bonus I even have the feeling that switching from desktop to mobile navigation will make more sense now!!! The logic seema clearer! And yes the buttons are a great idea. Thank you and sorry about lack of formating!

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  1.    Paul Murray

Yep, most of these items that appear on the cover can be turned on / off depending on the features. If you have turned off pages or events, then those wouldn't appear.

Apps would appear as a dropdown under the "Apps" section but in the future, we have plans to allow an easier way to organize things.

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  1.    Mark

Hi, Mark. Thanks for taking the time to reply it al sounds great. Just thinking aloud here there might be cases where you want features turned on but not showing in the header. In my case photos or rather albums are a case in point Best Paul.

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  1.    Paul Murray

The best solution is for you to re-arrange or remove them from the theme files This way, you can decide what you want to be visible on the cover.

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  1.    Mark

Hi Mark, sounds like a plan. Thanks Paul.

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  1.    Mark

but in the future, we have plans to allow an easier way to organize things.

That's interesting !

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I already bought the new EasySocial. Where to download this new beta3 version?

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  1.    Danny Grønbech

Hey Danny,

Check out the post at https://stackideas.com/forums/easysocial-2-1-0-beta-3 . You can download the beta versions from the link there.

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Hi Mark, on Quick Posting plugin, does it play nice, UI speaking with Converse Kit?

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  1.    LAC Webadmin

Right, what about converse kit ? any screenshots ?

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  1.    LAC Webadmin

We are looking at how we could have all these "quick" buttons appear alongside one another. It's tricky because it involves different extensions.

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  1.    LAC Webadmin

Yes, would also like to know about Converse Kit. Will there be updates to this once easysocial 2.1 is stable? My members are always requesting better chat features. It is by far the most popular feature request.

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  1.    Matthew Pate

We'll blog about ConverseKit 2.0 and PayPlans 3.7 soon

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  1.    Mark

awesome ! ConverseKit 2.0 !

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Mark,

very nice post indeed . I like the UX explanation. I intended to ask about exactly this profile change as users struggle to find other users details...Can't wait to install RC.

Best,
Pavol

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  1.    Pavol Nagy

Thank you Pavol With the new revamped cover, all the navigation would appear in a centralized place. The learning curve for users is almost zero.

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Mark and team a great step forward for these important end user UX visability logic improvements!

Big hugs and have a lovely weekend!

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  1.    Stan Chomer

Thank you Stan!

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I have found a bug on EasySocial 2.1 Beta 3. All extensions that require a post to be approved first by an admin, won't appear on EasySocial stream when the admin approves it, Kunena Forum, Community Answers, Community Quotes, J Classifieds etc are all being affected, which means the problem lies within Easy Social 2.1 both in Beta 2 and Beta 3.

If content has to be moderated first before it gets published, even after being published it won't appear on stream, but if say admins and...

I have found a bug on EasySocial 2.1 Beta 3. All extensions that require a post to be approved first by an admin, won't appear on EasySocial stream when the admin approves it, Kunena Forum, Community Answers, Community Quotes, J Classifieds etc are all being affected, which means the problem lies within Easy Social 2.1 both in Beta 2 and Beta 3.

If content has to be moderated first before it gets published, even after being published it won't appear on stream, but if say admins and moderators whose posts dont need to be approved first, post something, those posts will automatically appear on stream. That means there is a bug within the stream of EasySocial. As soon a post or comment that was under review gets approved, it should then appear on stream

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  1.    pearce

The problem is not in any way related to EasySocial beta. The rendering of the stream is dependent on the application itself.

In this case, the fix needs to be applied on Kunena, Community Answers, Community Quotes, JClassifieds. If these posts are scheduled / moderated, then the app or plugin's responsibility is to insert these items on the stream.

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  1.    Mark

Oh, I get your point. Thanks Mark. So I guess the option is to find a way to tweak these extensions so that when the admin publishes a post, that post gets published on stream as well

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  1.    pearce

Yes, that is correct because there is no way for EasySocial to know when it should be publishing an item on the stream since there are thousands of different extensions with different workflows

Though, we can fix this within Kunena as the Kunena app and plugin was written by us

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  1.    Mark

Ok, great. I would greatly appreciate it if you fix the Kunena app for us, it would make my problem half solved.

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  1.    pearce

Yep, as soon as a fix is available, the app would be updated on the app store.

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Congratulations! It's even better than I imagined!
The navigation is very clear now.

It would be nice if we could customize the order of the elements. And place Groups before Videos for example.
I may be able to do this by editing some files...

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  1.    Philippe

Thanks Philippe

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The "pull to refresh" feature is only for homepage, not Groups, Pages, Events and Profiles ?

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  1.    Philippe

It works across groups, pages, events and user profiles.

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  1.    Mark

Oh yes I did not notice
That's great !

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Hello,

I'm sorry but I don't found how to activate "Quick Posting App" ? I searched in ES Applications, Joomla Plugins, Stackideas App Store, I don't found it ?

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  1.    Yann Anderson

i think they're still developing it

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  1.    joy

Ah ok, thank you Joy !

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  1.    Yann Anderson

Hey Yann,

Yep, we are still working on it

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Now I really like the look. Good choice.
Will there be many more design changes?
I want to prepare my template for the new version.

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  1.    Ivaylo Valkov

Most of them are already finalized but there is several user experience changes in the RC release.

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These are terrific! I am working on a new website community and will definitely be looking for the release of this!!
Great Job !!!

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  1.    Rick Kasparek

Thank you Rick

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Hey Mark, never ceased to be impressed by the work you guys put out. Well done.

I was wanting to know, could you please include in the final version the option to:
1. When I befriend a new person, I will only see their posts from that time onwards
*atm when i befriend someone, it automatically adds all their old posts to my dashboard making it very cluttered and unnecessary.
2. The ability to have 'My recent photos' as a module on the left hand side
*atm that module...

Hey Mark, never ceased to be impressed by the work you guys put out. Well done.

I was wanting to know, could you please include in the final version the option to:
1. When I befriend a new person, I will only see their posts from that time onwards
*atm when i befriend someone, it automatically adds all their old posts to my dashboard making it very cluttered and unnecessary.
2. The ability to have 'My recent photos' as a module on the left hand side
*atm that module show's everyone's photos on the site.

Thank you and keep up the great work.

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  1.    ben

Thanks Ben! As for your feature requests, would it be possible that you submit them on https://stackideas.com/forums/easysocial/feature-requests-2 ? That way, it wouldn't go hidden in our comments section as it is very difficult for us to track for feature requests on the comments.

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  1.    Mark

Great. All done. Really hoping they will be implemented.
cheers

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UI/UX is an art and a science, it would appear as if Mark has Davincci and Einstein working for him, keep up the great work!

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  1.    Carl Farrington

Thanks Carl

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Can't wait to get my hands on this.

One thing I would like to see is a right sidebar module position. Next to the stream and under the header.

Do you think you guys could work this in?

Cheers Adam

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  1.    adam george

In the upcoming release candidate, you can configure the behavior of the sidebar on the dashboard and profile pages. It can be configured to be on the left or right

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  1.    Mark

I was thinking of a module position so we could display different modules in the sidebar.

I know you can do that with the templates sidebar. But the site would look better if we could have the easysocial header go full width of the page then add another side bar underneath next to the stream.

To do that we would need a sidebar module position built into easysocial.

Cheers Adam

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  1.    adam george

Hm, there has always been a sidebar module position across all of EasySocial pages

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If there is a module position can you share it as I haven't found it.

I have attached a very quick drawing to explain what I was after if it is possible.

I would like to ba able to put modules inside the pink box on the drawing.

Thanks Adam

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