Tango Acquired wrote:

I really do not need uninformed answers from the rest of the community here.

Because I am informed on what's going on, I break out of the condition that you mentioned. Now if you said "I don't need anyone from the community answering", then it would be different story. The stacked team's highest priority right now is prepping the release of EasyBlog 5. I'll let the stacked team explain the situation better, but basically I wouldn't expect any serious progress to be made on ES until EB5 is released. After hundreds of threads I've looked through this is quite clear to me.

Tango Acquired wrote:

Have you guys just stopped working on EasySocial all together

I can assure you that ES is actively being worked on, last Tuesday (October 7th) a new release was made. The release rate (minor) of ES is one of the fastest I've seen in the Joomla community. It does take a long time for major releases, but fixes and important changes are being added quite often.

Josh don´t bother wasting time answering his threads, if you look at his last 5 threads: http://stackideas.com/forums/profile/jthm0138
They are all the same.... complaining about how long time it is taking for EasySocial with Video support to come out. Last time I tried to answer his question the way you just did, he flipped out at me because I am not Stackideas staff.

Keep in mind there are other stacked fans who look at the thread. Also note that I'm defending the honor of the stackideas folks with solid evidence so that those in doubt know that there is more to the situation than what is being presented.

Very true. Same reason why I replied in previous threads, to make it clear that 99% of stackideas customers are beyond happy with the service, and so that new people coming in to these forums dont get the wrong impression because there is one customer that is near impossible to please... but there comes a point where we just gotta stop giving the dude attention. Replying can be counter productive because we just end up bumping negative threads :P

Interesting fact, Out of all of us, I am the only one (to my knowledge) that was ASKED to come post on the forums by Mark.
In fact, he begged me to come post on the forums. I still have the conversations in my logs to prove it.
And at that point in time, I was WAY more unhappy with them than I am now. At that point their product was not working correctly and it was their fault, at this point it is just an issue with VERY slow development, and promises that were not held up.

Your biggest issue Jannik, is that you like to run off at the mouth and post things without getting ALL of the information first.

Tango, I sorry to hear that you feel that way. All I can say is that I do my best to help... and in your last thread all I posted was a reply stating that the Stackideas team had in fact started develpment on 1.4 and that they just hadnt gotten around to updating their Roadmap. I do not believe that was misinformed. Yet you took offense to that reply and were very rude when all I was trying to do was help. So forgive me if this time around I try to warn someone about replying to you, the way I tried to do in your last thread.

I do not want you ripping into other great community members for trying to help.

Nothing short of speculation and conjecture on your behalf.
But I am so glad that StackIdeas has you to play the role of Robin for them, I notice that Batman has given up at this point. Take a hint and just stop.

Also, if you stop and look over my posts, you will find that the ONLY people I am abusive towards are those idiots that attempt to answer my questions as though they are some sort of authority on the issue when clearly they have no idea what is going on.... you know... like you.

Nothing short of speculation and conjecture on your behalf.
But I am so glad that StackIdeas has you to play the role of Robin for them, I notice that Batman has given up at this point. Take a hint and just stop.

Also, if you stop and look over my posts, you will find that the ONLY people I am abusive towards are those idiots that attempt to answer my questions as though they are some sort of authority on the issue when clearly they have no idea what is going on.... you know... like you.

Tango, you have no right whatsoever to abuse anyone on any forum. Most of the people here know that the stackideas team are a dedicated team.

Tango you are doing exactly what you blame me for doing. Posting without all the facts. When I posted in your last thread that they had started development but had not updated the roadmap, I wasn´t misinformed. I could´ve quoted stackideas staff across several threads and comments in the blog, but after your rude reply I realize that it wouldn´t have made a difference.... and as Seun says you have no right to be abusive towards anyone on the forum... and most of us realize how dedicated Stackideas are. You seem to be the only one who doesn´t appreciate their hard work.

seun wrote:
Tango, you have no right whatsoever to abuse anyone on any forum.[/b] Most of the people here know that the stackideas team are a dedicated team.

Wrong, I have every right. I was given that right when 1st StackIdeas refused to refund my purchase price, and 2nd people started injecting themselves into my conversations. I DO NOT go trolling your threads, so stay out of mine. It really is that simple, but so many of you idiots are incapable of understanding this simple idea. Maybe what I need to do is start trolling your threads as well so that everyone knows, leave my threads alone or I will mess with yours.

Jannik Laursen wrote:

Tango you are doing exactly what you blame me for doing. Posting without all the facts. When I posted in your last thread that they had started development but had not updated the roadmap, I wasn´t misinformed. I could´ve quoted stackideas staff across several threads and comments in the blog, but after your rude reply I realize that it wouldn´t have made a difference.... and as Seun says you have no right to be abusive towards anyone on the forum... and most of us realize how dedicated Stackideas are. You seem to be the only one who doesn´t appreciate their hard work.

And yet, I still have not gone to one of your posts and trolled you. Get a fucking life.

Lets try it this way.
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请你不要再评论我的谈话
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S'il vous plaît arrêter de commenter mes conversations.
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Por favor, pare comentando sobre minhas conversas.
Vă rugăm să nu mai comenta conversațiile mele.
Пожалуйста, прекратите комментируя мои разговоры.

Is that clear enough for your? (sorry for the inevitably bad translations)

Just stumbled across this thread.

Jannik and Josh, please keep up the good work. I for one benefit from reading your posts and from your wisdom.

Tango, you are very rude and hide behind your username. Both Jannik and Josh are prepared to post under their own names and are very visible and transparent. Its easy to be negative when your true identity is hidden.

There is absolutely no need for your negativity. Stackideas products are the best I have worked with, and their support, updates etc. are second to none - they don't deserve the negativity you spout.

Mel

I would agreed with you guys. Under no circumstance is it OK to be rude or abusive towards anyone in a open forum like Stackideas, or any other for that matter just because you have purchase one of their products. You are the only one I have come across on this forum that would use this form of language towards others that are trying to help you.
Unfortunately you strike me as one of those internet users that only can be abusive and rude towards anyone that dare cross you or even help you. Stop yourself while you are still able to do, and take on board the help others are giving you despite they are not one of the members of Stackideas.

Lars

NONE of you are trying to help me in any way shape o form. In fact Jannik even stated that his inntention is not to help me previously in this thread. He said, and I quote "Same reason why I replied in previous threads, to make it clear that 99% of stackideas customers are beyond happy with the service,"

This is not the intention of someone wanting to help me this is the intention of someone wanting to derail every single post I make you are doing the exact same thing. But fine... you people want to play this game, that is fine with me. I promise I am better at the derailing topics game than any of you are.

Mark Lee wrote:

Tango,

In all honesty, I am not building a company to actually pick a fight with our customers or pick on any customers at all. In fact, we built this forum not on the base of starting arguments but a place where light minded people could share ideas with transparency. But this time around, I think you have gone overboard this time around.

When you post a question in the forums, you have to expect others to chime in their response and feedback / ideas / input . However, it seems like you are posting a totally unrelated response to this discussion. When you posted your threads on our forums, other community users are replying you with courtesy and their response is always on the same topic as you are.

Also, I personally think that your post about Ebola is extremely insensitive and I really think you should start taking back your words simply because you are angry at others..

You locked the other thread before I could respond, but I think you will find that NO, people are not answering my questions, they are just attacking for the purpose of defending you. But you are a big boy and you picked this fight, now be a man and fight your own fights you cowardice worm, or refund my money and be done with me.

Tango Acquired wrote:

But you are a big boy and you picked this fight, now be a man and fight your own fights

This is more about credibility, people can fight their own fights any time with the consequence of their credibility. But if they've got the community fighting their back that means they must be doing something right (in this case the stacked team). The audience watching this conversation would be much less convinced if it was only Mark doing all the defending (although loyal fans would not see it that way). The stacked team have a reputation for nicely approaching things and don't strike me as the fighting type. I wouldn't blame them for defending their honor in this case.

So let them defend their honor and answer my questions.
But they won't because they have no honor, they are nothing more than thieves and whores from Singapore (yes I know they are not in Singapore, it is a piracy reference, I am sure Mark will get the joke.)

Tango, lets have a mature conversation for a minute. No bashing, not criticizing. Just a mature conversation where we try to understand what you are going through and what your endgame is. To see what actually can be done about this. Clearly you are posting similar threads almost weekly trying to voice your frustrations, and as the rest of us don´t share those frustrations... at least not to that degree, we can come across as insensitive... and as such you become defensive and rude, and it is a vicious circle. So for a minute, lets focus on the problem. Let´s assume that this is your first thread voicing your frustration.

1) In one sentence, without criticizing Stackideas, Mark or the community, voice your single biggest frustration. Is is slow development cycle, is it that you didn´t get a refund outside of return policy, is it that you are loosing business due to lack of video. What is the number one frustration.

2) What is your endgame, clearly you are trying to achieve something, but you are getting little sympathy due to your methods. Lets forget your last 5 threads. What is it you subconsciously are trying to achieve from all of these posts. Based on the amount of time and energy you are spending on them it must be important to you.

3) Do you understand that the majority of subscribers are very happy and appreciate the hard work of stackideas, and we see our purchases as a bargain... and that we actually aren´t against you, we just are confused by your stance. We are just very confused and our impression is you have a sense of entitlement mixed with desperation. But that might just be a result of your actions, and not what really is going on. So please enlighten us.

4) You do realize that when you purchase software, you purchase based on the current state, and the future is uncertain. There is even a disclaimer on the roadmap stating: "Kindly please take note that the list here is not final and we may add or remove any functionality if we see fit."

5) You realize that to many of us EasyBlog 5 is more important than EasySocial Video support? and that each person in this great community has different expectations, and it is hard to satisfy each individual. Yet they try their best to do so, even despite occasionally falling a bit short because they are too ambitious (Something that I think is a positive thing... better aim too high, than too low)

6) You have gone on record to say that you feel you have the right to abuse people in this community. Why is that? do you think it will help your cause? and if so, how will it help?


I want to encourage mutual understanding here, and I am genuinely trying to help right now. So please dont take offense, even if some of my comments might go against what you feel. If they do, educate us. Do not get defensive. Please don´t take things out of context, which I know you are the master of.

Jannik,
I have no desire to read your book, I do find it hilarious that you took the time to write it however.
In the end I am not interested in a single thing you have to say till you start a post with:
"I'm sorry for interjecting with my opinion based speculations and in the future I will let the StackIdeas team answer your questions that are directed at them BEFORE I lend my conjecture to the conversation."

Until we get that out of the way, I do not think you and I can have any form of mature conversations. And even then, once you do acquiesce to that humble and simple demand, you must remember to keep your posts limited common English words with no more than 3 syllables. I'm not but an ill educated pirate (just ask Mark).

Tango, I am sorry for taking the time to try to encourage mutual understanding and to try to wipe the slate clean. Your request is awfully one sided, but I would be more than willing to comply on the condition that you post a public apology for being abusive towards other community members in the interest of pushing your own agenda and to bring attention to your frustrations. If you do that, I promise to never ever post in any thread that you start ever again.

Awww. I am sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, with my gruff and abusive language. You see, a long hard life committing acts of piracy and high treason on the open seas of the interwebs has made me a salty and stubborn old scalawag.

May haps the next time I set in to port we can go out for a round of digital grog. Or if the winds be blowin' in the right direction we can stop in at MFC and oggle the wenches on me.

I've wanted for a while an excuse to use the following picture:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! I literally just laughed so hard I farted.

Hahahaha, brilliant post Josh. Good idea.

That said I do want to end with: Tango, joke all you want, but your deliberate/blunt trolling and insensitive comments about wishing slow agonizing ebola related deaths on half the worlds population in Mels thread over at: http://stackideas.com/forums/searchbox-too-big-for-toolbar crossed the line.

I hope for your sake and for the sake of this great community that once EasySocial with Video comes out, and your issues are resolved... that you take the time to apologize to all these great community members and to Stackideas. I really hope this is a short term thing that will spill over soon.

Back when you went by the name jthm0138 you were a respected member of this community and everyone was happy. Not sure what changed... but I hope to see the old you soon.

Hi guys,

Thank you for all the input. To Mr Tango, allow me to answer your inquiry :

1. We are working on EasySocial and EasyBlog. I apologize if not-updating-the-roadmap gives you the impression that we are not doing our job. But as stated in this thread, we did push a minor release of EasySocial. Nevertheless, your 'complaint' is a valid complaint, I'll request for Mark to update the roadmap.

2. As for all these inappropriate language that you are using, I came across this reply from you :

Tango Acquired wrote:

You locked the other thread before I could respond, but I think you will find that NO, people are not answering my questions, they are just attacking for the purpose of defending you. But you are a big boy and you picked this fight, now be a man and fight your own fights you cowardice worm, or refund my money and be done with me.

It seems that all these hostility is about 'money'. Well let me assure you that, as one of the person responsible for the Billings of our users, we DO processes refunds from time to time. The only strict exception is when the refund request was made AFTER the 30 days time period, we never processes refunds that was made after the 30 days money back guarantee. Now, if I remember correctly, you requested for a refund because we 'did not release the video for EasySocial 1.3'. Your refund request was made, again, if my memory serves me right, approximately 5 months after your purchase. Allow me to kindly remind you that the refund policy and assurance is for all the features that was advertised and publicly released, not for future features. I certainly hope that this clears up the reason for us to reject your refund request.

As Mark have stated, we do not wish to pick a fight with anyone, nor do we wish to have a negative environment on any of our communication channels. Do let me know if you have any suggestions and/or ideas that can help the community (and Stack Ideas) grow.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! It still has not been 5 months since my purchase.... but we can play this game in full tomorrow, tonight I am watching pirated copies of Roseanne with the rest of me crew, and tomorrow I can pull out the calendar and show you my naval charts.

It was BEFORE the 30 day mark when I first requested a refund. It was at around the 60 day mark that I got upset and started demanding one. I can get the exact dates for you soon.

Tango Acquired wrote:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! It still has not been 5 months since my purchase.... but we can play this game in full tomorrow, tonight I am watching pirated copies of Roseanne with the rest of me crew, and tomorrow I can pull out the calendar and show you my naval charts.

It was BEFORE the 30 day mark when I first requested a refund. It was at around the 60 day mark that I got upset and started demanding one. I can get the exact dates for you soon.

Ah yes, I apologize for the mixed up. The 5 months was related to your previous thread, not really related to your subscription and refund request. Correct me if I am wrong, sir, but you've purchased EasySocial on the 3rd of July 2014 (EasySocial Professional purchase).

On the 25th of August 2014, you've started this thread, inquiring about a 'Reverse Migration'. You have requested a refund on the same date, which was on the 25th of August 2014. 25th of August 2014 is way past 30 days from the 3rd of July 2014, no?

Perhaps you are referring to some of your other purchases. I've checked your conversation with Mark since day one and I am only able to locate only one purchase, the ones dated back on the 3rd of July 2014.

Let me know if there's anything that I've missed.

June 23, 2014 is when Tango said "I no longer have a license for whatever reason". This leads me to believe this is around the time Tango renewed the license (Tango has posted in the past since December with a license). So I suppose Tango might have requested a refund for the renewal rather than initial purchase? It couldn't have been the initial purchase considering that Tango renewed at some point (unless he renewed anyways by changing his mind about wanting a refund). What's the refund policy regarding renewals?

Josh Lewis wrote:

June 23, 2014 is when Tango said "I no longer have a license for whatever reason". This leads me to believe this is around the time Tango renewed the license (Tango has posted in the past since December with a license). So I suppose Tango might have requested a refund for the renewal rather than initial purchase? It couldn't have been the initial purchase considering that Tango renewed at some point (unless he renewed anyways by changing his mind about wanting a refund). What's the refund policy regarding renewals?

Thanks Josh. Ah, you're referring to this thread? Again, if my memory serves me right (which it has failed me previously lol), Tango have some sort of a deal with Mark. It could have been either a translator's license or some other deals that they have made. This license was removed for reasons only known to Mark.

His first purchase, from the Sales's database, is on the 3rd of July 2014.

As for our refund policy, we do not provide any refunds to renewal purchases. You can refer to our refund policy here.

Ahmad Justin wrote:
Let me know if there's anything that I've missed.

Yea, You have missed three entire series of conversations on Twitter, two of which brought me back to posting here on the StackIdeas site, and a short lived series of emails, and support tickets.

You also missed the part where StackIdeas missed not one, not two, but three projected release dates (we are up to 4 now since you have missed 2 more and have since released one of the late ones).

That August 25th thread would be the "around the 60 day mark" that I started demanding a refund, but was not the first request for one that happened close to a month before that.

Either way it is clear that it is not worth $100 for you to get rid of me before January, and honestly I find the intellectual stimulation of the conversations I have here with your other customers to be insensitive to maybe to buy a new subscription come January.

Yo, Ho haul together, hoist the colors high
Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die

And through out all of this, I would like to point out that you only glossed over the ACTUAL question that was asked in this thread. That being:
"Here we are more than a week into October and still no updates at all on the roadmap. Have you guys just stopped working on EasySocial all together, or stopped caring about keeping the community updated on your progress level?"

and the answer given:
"We are working on EasySocial and EasyBlog. I apologize if not-updating-the-roadmap gives you the impression that we are not doing our job. But as stated in this thread, we did push a minor release of EasySocial. Nevertheless, your 'complaint' is a valid complaint, I'll request for Mark to update the roadmap."

And to me, that translates to:
We have released some minor updates to EasySocial fixing the problems that we created by not focusing on the work that we were doing, and no we don't really care about updating our community on our progress we already got money out of you why should we care about you any longer, maybe you should buy another one of our products and we will pretend to care about you for another 35 days till your refund period is completely expired and then we will stop caring about updating you on that one as well.

And did I say insensitive? I meant incentive.

Ahmad Justin wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, sir, but you've purchased EasySocial on the 3rd of July 2014 (EasySocial Professional purchase).

How is that possible? Tango made a reply on a thread on December 28 2013. Sometime in November of 2013 non subscribed members could not reply or view past the first forum post. He obviously didn't swap profiles because it's listed right now under his profile name/profile photo. What I'm getting at is that theoretically it is not possible for the initial purchase to have been made July 3rd of this year. Maybe that's when it was renewed? Further evidence to support that he has had a ES subscription since the end of last year, he said on February 01, 2014:

Captain Tango wrote:

I am trying to learn how to code various apps and extensions for the EasySocial community (source)

I think it's great that he was interested in making an app, but without access to ES it doesn't make sense to try to make one. This alone makes it likely that he had one during February. I had to ask about the refund policy to help with confusions on this case.

Josh Lewis wrote:

Ahmad Justin wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, sir, but you've purchased EasySocial on the 3rd of July 2014 (EasySocial Professional purchase).

How is that possible? Tango made a reply on a thread on December 28 2013. Sometime in November of 2013 non subscribed members could not reply or view past the first forum post. He obviously didn't swap profiles because it's listed right now under his profile name/profile photo. What I'm getting at is that theoretically it is not possible for the initial purchase to have been made July 3rd of this year. Maybe that's when it was renewed? Further evidence to support that he has had a ES subscription since the end of last year, he said on February 01, 2014:

Captain Tango wrote:

I am trying to learn how to code various apps and extensions for the EasySocial community (source)

I think it's great that he was interested in making an app, but without access to ES it doesn't make sense to try to make one. This alone makes it likely that he had one during February. I had to ask about the refund policy to help with confusions on this case.

Have we not discussed the Pirate thing? I think we discussed that. I am pretty sure that was covered.

Am I admitting to being a pirate now? YES I AM!
I was also Jack the Ripper
I killed J.F.K.
I assassinated Abraham Lincoln
I am responsible for the 1931 China Floods
and the 1972 blizzard in Iran.

I am one evil evil dude.
Pleased to meet you, Hope you guess my name.

Pirate or not, a subscription was still required for being able to reply to a post after November of 2013. If you used another account that would be one thing, but that is not the case. Being a super assassin is one thing, but how could you cause the 1972 Iran blizzard.

Josh Lewis wrote:

Pirate or not, a subscription was still required for being able to reply to a post after November of 2013. If you used another account that would be one thing, but that is not the case. Being a super assassin is one thing, but how could you cause the 1972 Iran blizzard.

Because I transcend space and time. They already told you they have confirmed that I did not have a payed subscription before July of this year. So if I posted before July of this year, I am either a Timelord, a supper hacker, the Devil, or there is actually more going on here than any of member of the community could ever understand, and that is why I keep pointing out that my questions are not answerable by members of the community....

Take your pick... Personally I like being a Timelord or the Devil the most.

Captain Tango wrote:

Ahmad Justin wrote:
Let me know if there's anything that I've missed.

Yea, You have missed three entire series of conversations on Twitter, two of which brought me back to posting here on the StackIdeas site, and a short lived series of emails, and support tickets.

You also missed the part where StackIdeas missed not one, not two, but three projected release dates (we are up to 4 now since you have missed 2 more and have since released one of the late ones).

That August 25th thread would be the "around the 60 day mark" that I started demanding a refund, but was not the first request for one that happened close to a month before that.

Either way it is clear that it is not worth $100 for you to get rid of me before January, and honestly I find the intellectual stimulation of the conversations I have here with your other customers to be insensitive to maybe to buy a new subscription come January.

Yo, Ho haul together, hoist the colors high
Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die

Thank you for pointing this out. I've checked our Twitter conversation and I am still unable to locate any refund request that you have made. Perhaps you can share with me the link to your tweets so that I can investigate this issue further? I've also checked all of your emails, dated back from December 2013 and to today, the only refund requests that you have made was on the day that I've quoted above.

To be honest, we do not want to get rid of any customers. I believe you have started off as one of the awesome bug-testers and we would be more than happy to have you back in the seat. I hope you don't get it the wrong way, Tango.

Now Subscribed

I just stopped laughing my ass off at Josh`s amazing most visually correct way of saying, `` I`m Out of here!"

An excellent use of visual content that all humans can relate to - Them **** crazy cats!

Back to Project Chameleon Concept.

Hi Josh,

Thank you for your response. You sure are one of the observant ones, are you?

Well, to be honest, Mark himself have provided Tango here with a free license on the 22 of December 2013 on the basis that he'll help us with any bug-tracking and some translations. According to our record, the purchase the Tango made was on the date that I've quoted above.

Tango might have used other email address and/or other account to purchase. If so, I'd humbly request for Tango to provide me with the account's user name and the email so that I am able to investigate this issue for him.

Josh Lewis wrote:

Ahmad Justin wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, sir, but you've purchased EasySocial on the 3rd of July 2014 (EasySocial Professional purchase).

How is that possible? Tango made a reply on a thread on December 28 2013. Sometime in November of 2013 non subscribed members could not reply or view past the first forum post. He obviously didn't swap profiles because it's listed right now under his profile name/profile photo. What I'm getting at is that theoretically it is not possible for the initial purchase to have been made July 3rd of this year. Maybe that's when it was renewed? Further evidence to support that he has had a ES subscription since the end of last year, he said on February 01, 2014:

Captain Tango wrote:

I am trying to learn how to code various apps and extensions for the EasySocial community (source)

I think it's great that he was interested in making an app, but without access to ES it doesn't make sense to try to make one. This alone makes it likely that he had one during February. I had to ask about the refund policy to help with confusions on this case.

Ahmad Justin,

SIMPLY PUT: In my opinion, Tango is jerking your chain. Why? Because Tango thinks the right exists to jerk anyone's chain at StackIdeas in public. And by engaging in this discussion with Tango it is pointless. The jerking only stops when you decide to stop being jerked around.

What is jerking your chain? Added, just in case the concept of jerking your chain doesn't translate to some people.

Source: Urban Dictrionary
Jerking your chain ~ To make fun of; to tease. From the slave days when overseers would jerk the chains of slaves
Example: Yea, you are being paranoid. I didn't mean it - I was just jerking your chain.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jerking%20your%20chain

Consider it being hopelessly lost in what I would call a GoonBabble thread.

Started for nothing more than to draw you or anyone else into the pointless GoonBabble. Or being: Jerked Around.

What is being Jerked around?
Source: Urban Dictrionary
Jerking your chain ~
Being placed into unreasonable situations generally for the benefit or amusement of someone else. This often occurs as punishment for minor transgressions or a simple faux pas.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jerked+Around

In the case of the real purpose of this thread, it's my opinion that Tango gets off on jerking anyone around.

Like I said before.

"Tango could get into trouble in an empty room."

Why waste your valuable time proving your valid points? KEEP TAKING a FIRM STAND on the 300 Day Refund Policy. Don't be coerced into deviating from policies.

Perhaps some of us could collaborate with you in a positive discussion about the current ES 1.3, and all of what it has to offer?

Randall

You seriously don't know what I want yet?

Because it isn't a refund. I could care less about $100, hell I will throw another $100 at you just to watch you dance. All a refund will do for you is get to me stop posting on your forums.

The videos as other people have pointed out? I already have a video solution that works for me, and I already told you exactly how I did it, and how you could have done it as well. But you didn't want to listen to me.

Bug testing? I already fixed all of your bugs on my site, and yes... there are quite a few that you have not fixed yet, some have been mentioned on the forums, some have not. But what would I get for my efforts? I don't trust any of you at this point, why would I work with you?

Sure, this started out of anger back in August, but do you really, truly, honestly think that anyone could stay angry that long? This isn't about anger. This isn't about making me happy. This is about StackIdeas doing the right thing. Mark took the first step, and admitted that he was wrong. But he didn't do the right thing and make up for being wrong. On the contrary, you guys just keep doing the wrong thing over and over again. I honestly don't know how anyone can trust you when you are so far behind on development and you are not willing to give extensions to your existing customers to make up for your mistakes... not ours, yours.

You compound the wrong decisions by working with a company that is known for doing bad things. Not only do you flat out ignore all the complaints about it, but worse you try to talk circles around them and justify the mistakes. Step up and do the right thing, and I will do the same.

As for you Randall.....
StackIdeas and I engage in meaningful conversations back and forth, with some level of sincerity and civility. Sure, there is a game of cat and mouse being played, and sure I have been letting them think they are the cat chasing a mouse, when really the mouse is a phantom and I am nothing but a mean pitbull.

But at the end of the day, there is something there between them and I.
You... on the other hand, keep trying to insult me. Worse you do it through deflection. You want to attack me, do it directly. Call me names. Show me what you got. Truly try and psycho analyse me. Because "Tango thinks the right exists to jerk anyone's chain at StackIdeas in public", that is absolute B.S, and you know it. Of course that right exists, it exists in EVERY free country there is.

So come on. Show me what you got. Truly evaluate me, and tell me what makes me tick. Tell me why I feel the need to do the things I do, and say the things I say.

Hello Tango,

Thank you for your response. I apologize as now, I'm not quite clear on the reasons of all these hostility towards us. This is from your last response :

Captain Tango wrote:

You seriously don't know what I want yet?

Because it isn't a refund. I could care less about $100, hell I will throw another $100 at you just to watch you dance. All a refund will do for you is get to me stop posting on your forums.

The videos as other people have pointed out? I already have a video solution that works for me, and I already told you exactly how I did it, and how you could have done it as well. But you didn't want to listen to me.

Bug testing? I already fixed all of your bugs on my site, and yes... there are quite a few that you have not fixed yet, some have been mentioned on the forums, some have not. But what would I get for my efforts? I don't trust any of you at this point, why would I work with you?

Sure, this started out of anger back in August, but do you really, truly, honestly think that anyone could stay angry that long? This isn't about anger. This isn't about making me happy. This is about StackIdeas doing the right thing. Mark took the first step, and admitted that he was wrong. But he didn't do the right thing and make up for being wrong. On the contrary, you guys just keep doing the wrong thing over and over again. I honestly don't know how anyone can trust you when you are so far behind on development and you are not willing to give extensions to your existing customers to make up for your mistakes... not ours, yours.

You compound the wrong decisions by working with a company that is known for doing bad things. Not only do you flat out ignore all the complaints about it, but worse you try to talk circles around them and justify the mistakes. Step up and do the right thing, and I will do the same.

However, previously you said :

Captain Tango wrote:

Mark Lee wrote:

Tango,

In all honesty, I am not building a company to actually pick a fight with our customers or pick on any customers at all. In fact, we built this forum not on the base of starting arguments but a place where light minded people could share ideas with transparency. But this time around, I think you have gone overboard this time around.

When you post a question in the forums, you have to expect others to chime in their response and feedback / ideas / input . However, it seems like you are posting a totally unrelated response to this discussion. When you posted your threads on our forums, other community users are replying you with courtesy and their response is always on the same topic as you are.

Also, I personally think that your post about Ebola is extremely insensitive and I really think you should start taking back your words simply because you are angry at others..

You locked the other thread before I could respond, but I think you will find that NO, people are not answering my questions, they are just attacking for the purpose of defending you. But you are a big boy and you picked this fight, now be a man and fight your own fights you cowardice worm, or refund my money and be done with me.

I am truly lost here. Do let me know what exactly do you wish to obtain from your action (both in this forum and on Twitter), and I'll see what I can do.

Thank you for your input, Randall.

Though a part of me wanted to believe what you say, another part of me truly just want to know Tango's issue and try to solve it for him. Seeing that he admits that 'refunding' is not what he wanted, I'll look forward to his response on what are his targets so that the team are able to assist him out.

Meanwhile, it would be best if we discuss as civilised as possible; name calling, trolling, flaming and anything related to it won't do any good. We want to keep this forum as peaceful and as friendly as possible.

Thanks guys.

I don't see what is so confusing there.

As I have said all along, there are TWO (2) ways to get me to stop.

The first is to do the right thing, and fix the scheduling blunder that you have made.
You could do this by extending subscriptions for everyone that bought EasySocial between 1.2 and 1.3 so that they actually get the 1.6 that they were expecting (or at least the 1.5 that should have been out at the end of last month according to your original time line.) And removing all callback routines in your script, because that is just playing dirty.

You should also make your customer identifier code known to all of your customers, since it is VERY easy to manipulate, and I can only assume it is from this that Mark came to the conclusion that I am a pirate. Unfortunately for him, he is pointing the finger at the wrong person, and since I know for a FACT that I did not share your product, I can even prove my innocents on this one. But that being said, it is so easy to spoof that code that your customers should be well aware that it exists, and that any hacker worth anything can easily get that code from their website and then use it to frame them for piracy as well.

Oh by the way, that is one of your bugs.

The 2nd thing you could do is silence me, but there is only one way to do that, and that is to refund my money and disable my account. Otherwise I am here to stay.

Would you like me to go into more details about the hidden callback routines and the customer identification codes that you have included in your products for everyone? The mathematical formula (if you can really call it that) behind them, and how to spoof someone elses ID?

and all of the rest of you reading this, if you are not at least a little worried by the identifier codes, and callback routines, trust me.... YOU SHOULD BE!

I'd say your pretty twisted up and pathetic Tango. Anything to do with you is a complete waste of my valuable time!

RAOTFLMAO

Captain Tango wrote:

The 2nd thing you could do is silence me, but there is only one way to do that, and that is to refund my money... Would you like me to go into more details about the hidden callback routines and the customer identification codes that you have included in your products for everyone?

Are you black mailing the stacked team? Look through your records of when you paid vs when you requested a refund and see if it's within the 30 day mark. Pull the evidence for the stacked team which will help your case a lot.

Regarding the security exploit, you should talk that over with the stacked team.

The others in this thread will decide if (Tango) is a complete waste of their valuable time.

First of all it is extortion not blackmail get your crimes right.
And one of the key things behind extortion is that you really kind of need to keep what you have from going public (like I just made it) or you lose all leverage with it (like I just intentionally did). The cat is out of the bag now,

Randall M wrote:

The others in this thread will decide if (Tango) is a complete waste of their valuable time.

Maybe you would be a little more interested in knowing about it if you knew that you are ID# 2537
Mark can confirm that.

But now the question is..... OMFG! How did he know that?!?!

Or that Josh Lewis is # 5709

Actually Tango, I would have loved to see a constructive and civil conversation about this, in a thread that was started without bashing. I am inclined to agree with some of your points. While they aren't very high priority issues for me, I can see your arguments. On the topic of extending subscriptions, I actually thought about that a few months ago after having to delay my sites launch due to lack of events, but have since realized that the wait was worth it, so I never really made a big deal out of it. However, while my opinions have shifted since then, I do see your arguments and can sympathize. At that time I felt like I was paying for a product that I could not use on a live site, so it felt like I had started paying prematurely. That said, since then I have come to realize that I genuinely appreciate their attention to detail, and am willing to be patient and support Stackideas while they mature the product. I cannot compare a project that is less than a year old to a project that is 9 years old (JomSocial). In terms of identifier codes, and callback routines it is an area that I am not that educated on, but would love to see some more transparency related to that.

Again, they are not very high priority issues for me, but I would have loved to have a mature conversation about these things. Before you went into Tango mode, we could have had a very positive and constructive conversation about these things I feel.

Captain Tango wrote:

Maybe you would be a little more interested in knowing about it if you knew that you are ID# 2537

And yours is 64169. It was pretty easy to get the number.

Hi guys,

Thank you for the input. Tango, what you've said is a bit too technical for me to decipher. Being the humble marketing guy, I don't think I can help you with your technical issues. I'll try to talk to Mark about this.

I don't think you're a "pirate", though.

As for refunds, I believe I have explained in details about it in your previous thread. There is a guarantee that the features that was in the current version of software works; this is covered by the refund policy. There isn't any policy that will cover future features that will be released, that is why we state, in our roadmaps, this statement :

"Kindly please take note that the list here is not final and we may add or remove any functionality if we see fit."

The statement was there even before I joined Stack Ideas (I was from another establishment back then and was checking Stack Ideas out ).

So, I am truly sorry as we're unable to process any refund as you've made the refund request way past 30 days of your purchase. I am still waiting for you to provide proof to your claim :

Captain Tango wrote:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! It still has not been 5 months since my purchase.... but we can play this game in full tomorrow, tonight I am watching pirated copies of Roseanne with the rest of me crew, and tomorrow I can pull out the calendar and show you my naval charts.

It was BEFORE the 30 day mark when I first requested a refund. It was at around the 60 day mark that I got upset and started demanding one. I can get the exact dates for you soon.

If you can prove to me the statement above, I will not hesitate to process your refund requests.

Thank you Tango!

Now... I could just be making up some numbers here.
But.... Chances are, that I am not, and that StackIdeas has a MAJOR security issue on their hands because of a backdoor that they left in their code... one that they left there on purpose for what could only be shady reasons.

Please close and delete this thread. It is sick. thanks Paul.

Josh Lewis wrote:

Captain Tango wrote:

Maybe you would be a little more interested in knowing about it if you knew that you are ID# 2537

And yours is 64169. It was pretty easy to get the number.

You sure about that? A smart man would have edited his files.

Paul Murray wrote:

Please close and delete this thread. It is sick. thanks Paul.

YES, delete the thread that calls to attention that StackIdeas is doing something VERY bad. Don't let everyone know there is a problem and fix it!

OMG, we have a self proclaimed genuine Rocket Scientist in our midst who can get our Id's. RAOTFLMAO
Tango's going to demonstrate how bright the bulb upstairs is!

Time Vampire

Time Vampire
1. Something or someone who literally suck(s) your time like a vampire suck(s) blood.

Time Vampire
2. human beings who believe, regardless of how old they become, that the entire world revolves around them, and thus, SUCK the time from anything you may be doing. Contraindications are usually avoidance, but bribery has been known to work in some circles. Relocation physical proximity is often the only cure once bitten; that, and blocking them from being able to send any kind of Ethernet, internet or dog catcher's net transmissions.

It's very easy to jerk the chain back, but right now it's time to press the IGNORE BUTTON.

Captain Tango wrote:

Josh Lewis wrote:

And yours is 64169. It was pretty easy to get the number.

You sure about that? A smart man would have edited his files.

I can be pretty sure. I checked the ids you mentioned against the id's mentioned in the profile images. So in your case the full path for your image is:
http://cloud.stackideas.com/images/discuss_avatar/64169_a7719b8562c3643e7f360c525d48a058.jpg

Anyways, time to get some sleep. I expect a tornado to roll through here by the time I wake up tomorrow.

Randall M wrote:

OMG, we have a self proclaimed genuine Rocket Scientist in our midst who can get our Id's. RAOTFLMAO
Tango's going to demonstrate how bright the bulb upstairs is!

Well i was trying to be tactful but since you still do not want to believe.
Your hidden confirmation ID is 1003539
Wanna take a stab in the dark about how I figured that out?

Josh Lewis wrote:

Captain Tango wrote:

Josh Lewis wrote:

And yours is 64169. It was pretty easy to get the number.

You sure about that? A smart man would have edited his files.

I can be pretty sure. I checked the ids you mentioned against the id's mentioned in the profile images. So in your case the full path for your image is:
http://cloud.stackideas.com/images/discuss_avatar/64169_a7719b8562c3643e7f360c525d48a058.jpg

Anyways, time to get some sleep. I expect a tornado to roll through here by the time I wake up tomorrow.

Unfortunately for you, I found your IDs on your website, not this one.

Wouldn`t it be something to have a Wack-a-mole feature built into this forum software?.



Reading an Interesting article about Facebook’s Anonymous App and How it Could Kill Trolls With Secret Identity

Facebook’s Anonymous App Could Kill Trolls With Secret Identity
That’s what it’s usually like fighting trolls, bullies, and spammers in anonymous communities. Ban them and they just start new accounts. That’s why the fact that Facebook knows who you really are could be the key to its upcoming anonymous app.

NOTE! Something to think about for EasySocial and other SI extensions.

Read More... http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/12/facebooks-anonymous-app-could-kill-trolls-with-secret-identity/

HEY RANDALL! Read Again, buddy. But because you can not play by the rules, I am not going to let you or StackIdeas know about the other things I have found.... unless Mark personally asks me VERY VERY nicely.

Ahmad Justin wrote:

Thank you for your input, Randall.

Though a part of me wanted to believe what you say, another part of me truly just want to know Tango's issue and try to solve it for him. Seeing that he admits that 'refunding' is not what he wanted, I'll look forward to his response on what are his targets so that the team are able to assist him out.

Meanwhile, it would be best if we discuss as civilised as possible; name calling, trolling, flaming and anything related to it won't do any good. We want to keep this forum as peaceful and as friendly as possible.

Thanks guys.

That by the way was blackmail.

Paul Murray wrote:

Please close and delete this thread. It is sick. thanks Paul.

I fully agree Paul. The best way to deal with this time vampire thread is to NOT PAY ATTENTION, and IGNORE the GOONBABBLE.

Randall

Tango, can I ask you an honest question? What happened a month or so ago? I remember you were one of the most respected community members and very positive about Stackideas. I recall you even using language along the lines of: I have seen the light... while referring to Stackideas.

You seem to have a lot of legitimate concerns. Why didn´t you just start a constructive conversation about this? Why let it escalate to this level.

How does one go from being very respected and positive one moment to being rude and negative the next. Something has happened, and we are not getting the full story. All we are getting is drama of the aftermath.

P.S. I do agree this thread should be closed, as Paul has mentioned this thread is sick. For a community that I call the best Joomla community on the internet... this thread is below us.

Yes... By all means, ignore me.
Mark... Ignore me, ignore the fact that I just PROVED I know numbers that I cant possibly find on your site.
Ignore the fact that I warned you that there is a MAJOR security bug in your code.
Ignore the fact that I am probably the only person on the forum that can help you with this problem.
Ignore me.... go for it.

Jannik Laursen wrote:

Tango, can I ask you an honest question? What happened a month or so ago? I remember you were one of the most respected community members and very positive about Stackideas. I recall you even using language along the lines of: I have seen the light... while referring to Stackideas.

You seem to have a lot of legitimate concerns. Why didn´t you just start a constructive conversation about this? Why let it escalate to this level.

How does one go from being very respected and positive one moment to being rude and negative the next. Something has happened, and we are not getting the full story. All we are getting is drama of the aftermath.

P.S. I do agree this thread should be closed, as Paul has mentioned this thread is sick. For a community that I call the best Joomla community on the internet... this thread is below us.

Well said Jannik, Time to put this one to sleep mode. It's nothing more than a Control Drama situation that needs to go to sleep.

Shows just how MANIPULATIVE a person can be in the forums, and we can stop it by not participating in any conversations with anyone that resorts to Control Drama.

Jannik Laursen wrote:

Tango, can I ask you an honest question? What happened a month or so ago? I remember you were one of the most respected community members and very positive about Stackideas. I recall you even using language along the lines of: I have seen the light... while referring to Stackideas.

You seem to have a lot of legitimate concerns. Why didn´t you just start a constructive conversation about this? Why let it escalate to this level.

How does one go from being very respected and positive one moment to being rude and negative the next. Something has happened, and we are not getting the full story. All we are getting is drama of the aftermath.

The simple answer, is Mark flat out accused me of Piracy.
The extended answer is I am far worse than any pirate.

Randall,

you hit the nail on the head (or mole in this case). Yes we definitely need something like that

Unfortunately life is full of 'Tangos' and if stackideas banned him, he will just pop up again with a new identity.

It is a shame he is so arrogant and anti-social, as it would seem that underneath all the rubbish he spouts is a fairly intelligent guy. Shame its wasted by being so negative, rude and impatient with regards to product development. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't work for a competitor, as he seems out to destroy stackideas incredible reputation. Its not working though!

He obviously has such an over inflated ego, so the worse thing you can do with someone like that is to ignore them. Let him rant on, he will soon get fed up when he isn't getting the interactions and conflict he craves.

Time to end this and move on towards more constructive interactions and support

Mel

A competitor? That is what you think?
The only two competitors are Community Builder and that thing is a f***ing joke,
And JomSocial.... and if I worked for JomSocial then Mark would know me a lot better than he does, and none of this would have happened.
No I do not work for a competitor of StackIdeas. Nor do I have any vested interests in any of their competitors.

I already told you who I am.

Thanks for the clarification Tango. It still does not explain your hostility towards the general community. But I understand how such a dispute/accusation could instantly change your stance on a lot of things.

Hi guys,

Thank you all for the input. Tango, I have asked numerous times about your proof that you have requested for refunds within your 30-days-money-back-guarantee. I still haven't obtained the proof. However, I can see that this discussion turns out to be a very constructive discussion in amidst of the chaotic name calling, flaming and trolling.

I have no choice but to close this thread for the timebeing. Kindly be assured that I am closing this thread because it seems that the discussion is going away from the main point of the topic, which is about our roadmaps which were not update.

Tango, if you have the proof that your refund claim was made within your 30 days period, please forward it to me at justin [at] stackideas [dot] com. I'll be more than happy to assist you with the refund if you can forward me with such proof.

As for the technical inquiries that you've raised, I'll personally forward this to Mark and will ask him about the issue. He'll address this issue as soon as he can.

Thank you all for the input. Let's keep this community clean and fun, as it's suppose to be.

Jannik Laursen wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Tango. It still does not explain your hostility towards the general community. But I understand how such a dispute/accusation could instantly change your stance on a lot of things.

Oh that is even easier to explain.
Just look over Randall's answers to my threads, and then the way people started talking to me after he started in.
I am not a believer in treat people how you want to be treated. I am more of an Eye for an Eye kind of guy.

Re: an Eye for an Eye kind of guy.

- I come from Canada, and in Canada you wouldn't survive very long in any discussion by treating others like this in real life. It's OLD TIME HOCKEY here in Canada, and people like me have VERY LOW TOLERANCE for people like you who always act like JERKS, especially in forum threads that are meant to be constructive and to build positive relations with others. You'd be the one that was forum terminated long ago.

It's just that the StackIdeas Team is very patient and polite, but I believe you will push things to the limit and eventually you will be banned from the forums. Your disruptive approach will guarantee your fate, PERIOD.

Where I come from, we call it - Cast from the Tribe.

Hi guys,

I've finally managed to get in touch with Mark; he's currently out of the country. He managed to go through this forum and was about to answer it when his Internet failed him. What he told me was that the Internet connection from his end is so bad that he cannot post a response. However, he will respond to this thread as soon as he's able to get a stable connection.

Thank you all for your kind patience and understanding.

Ahmad Justin, no need to disturb Mark with this during his travels. He can deal with it when he gets back The whole situation with Tango has gone on for over a month now, so it can wait for his return. Despite all the drama and name calling in this thread, we finally have gotten Tango to point out some specifics. So once Mark is back, it will be easier to deal with/solve.

Captain Tango wrote:

Unfortunately for you, I found your IDs on your website, not this one.

Regarding obtaining user's id's, is that a serious security issue? Facebook and many other profile systems display a user's id. It can be obtained through urls when no permalink is made or from the user's profile image url. So we are well aware of the fact that on ES a user id can be accessed.

Josh Lewis wrote:

Captain Tango wrote:

Unfortunately for you, I found your IDs on your website, not this one.

Regarding obtaining user's id's, is that a serious security issue? Facebook and many other profile systems display a user's id. It can be obtained through urls when no permalink is made or from the user's profile image url. So we are well aware of the fact that on ES a user id can be accessed.

Josh,

I wouldn't give too much merit to Captain Tangos claims. When Captain Tango claims to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier, my questions to the legendary Tango would be this:

1. Where are any of your sites that you have developed so we can take a look at them? How about the site that was raking in over $20 grand a month? Where is it?

2. If you are a such a video expert as you claim, then why not show us a few of your online videos?

My bet is we won't get to see any of this, as none of it exists. No power to the chandelier bulbs, means no brightness!

Randall, How about you bend over and kiss my ass:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2853967/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DvlNV0riXw
and http://geekgirlsonline.com/

Now you know who I am. But I still have no clue who you are. Want to back that **** up?

Ahmad Justin wrote:

Hi guys,

Thank you all for the input. Tango, I have asked numerous times about your proof that you have requested for refunds within your 30-days-money-back-guarantee. I still haven't obtained the proof. However, I can see that this discussion turns out to be a very constructive discussion in amidst of the chaotic name calling, flaming and trolling.

I have no choice but to close this thread for the timebeing. Kindly be assured that I am closing this thread because it seems that the discussion is going away from the main point of the topic, which is about our roadmaps which were not update.

Tango, if you have the proof that your refund claim was made within your 30 days period, please forward it to me at justin [at] stackideas [dot] com. I'll be more than happy to assist you with the refund if you can forward me with such proof.

As for the technical inquiries that you've raised, I'll personally forward this to Mark and will ask him about the issue. He'll address this issue as soon as he can.

Thank you all for the input. Let's keep this community clean and fun, as it's suppose to be.

Great job of closing this thread there bro.

Also Randall, you threatened to kick my ass a few posts back. I am going to be in Canada very soon, and I expect a resounding ass beating! You better show up!

Hey guys,

Okay, firstly I do apologize for the delay of this reply and I think I have been missing from this thread. Please do understand that I am not avoiding it or neither am I ignoring it I just can't load the page because I am currently on vacation in Indonesia and the internet connectivity here is so bad that any page that is larger than 300k just refused to load (Yes, I am bashing our own EasyDiscuss for this and I know and feel the pain now). I am now finally able to load this page now because they have placed a brand new access point in my room

I would prefer to not bring up the past since it doesn't do any help to your initial question and I do not want to pick a fight with any of our customers. However since you are demanding an answer for it, here it goes:

You had initially requested for beta access of EasySocial during October and because EasySocial was still in BETA, I personally granted you with a beta license for FREE (No charges whatsoever) with good faith thinking that you would be able to help us with beta testing. However, during the beta, your only contribution was a 2 post on the issues tracker and that's about it. Not to mentioned that you illegally shared our beta files which you have gotten for FREE to warez sites. Just some heads up about the BETA (back then):

1. The product was still FREE back then because we are running a beta test.
2. We did not make any money (We did not sell anything) at all during the beta period because we are testing this as most of you, early adopters could remember.
3. We added a user id on the BETA package because we needed a way to see who was injecting malicious codes in EasySocial.
4. Initial 1.0 beta packages was not sent to JED since JED does not allow beta packages. In fact, during the beta, EasySocial wasn't even registered on JED. So please, do not black mail or threaten us without getting your facts right.

Your account was banned during the beta because I co-incidentally found out that a FREE user has been sharing the beta files all over the internet. We did not need to perform any refunds at all since you did not make any payments to us. The only thing which we did was to delete your subscription Why should we even refund you anything at all since you did not even paid for it?

Then, you bashed Mel's post on the other post which I find it unacceptable because you are harassing other customers and it's violating our "Terms of Usage" set forth on this site. Not only did you bash Mel, you also posted a very insensitive posts about Ebola. I don't know which part of the world you are from but being a normal human, I feel really sad for these Ebola patients and you lost my respect altogether when you started bashing them as well.

Okay, now let's go back to your original question. The roadmap for EasySocial 1.4, will be updated shortly and we have already started some major stuffs with EasySocial 1.4. I cannot disclose such information at this point of time. We will be disclosing them soon on our roadmap page for 1.4.

When there are no updates on the roadmap it does not mean that we are not doing anything at all. We just did not update the roadmap You don't expect us to share every single plans, ideas and journal of what we do every single hour with the world do you?

Guys,

I appreciate everyone's response here and the support that you have shown here. If Tango have posted a reply that may or may not offend you, I would like to apologize on behalf of him.

Tango,

If you are offended with the posts created by other users here, I would like to apologize on behalf of them as well. This really shouldn't have gotten to this stage and the reason that we built our products is to help the Joomla community and of course do what we love to do.

I sincerely apologize that 1.3 does incorporate Videos and like you, I had my fair share of disappointment too! Like I have posted on the rest of the posts in the forums, it was mainly my misjudgement as I thought it would be possible to work on concurrent projects at the same time. However, I am not going to spend all my time crying over spilled milk and as promised, I will try to compensate this in 1.4 now.

You are still dodging the question, and accusing me.
Are you 100% sure you would like to continue with this course of action?

Hi Mark
Just wanted to say thank you for opening up. the only advise i can give to you the SI team is "JUST SHUT UP " and concentrate on your good work. don't let one or two clients disturb your focus on what you have planned for us the plenty. I would rather wait for 1 year for EasySocial 1.4 to come out because i know that you will deliver like you have been doing.

As the saying goes "Never argue with a fool because no one will tell who real fool is among the two".

Please just concentrate on your good deeds

Regards
Goodwin

No worries Mark, thank you for your hard work and dedication... also you should not feel the need to apologize on behalf of Tango or any other member incl. myself. Go enjoy Indonesia. This thread/issue can wait till you return to Malaysia.

Holly Macheroli A Huge Story Development Hits the StackIdeas Threads

Thank you Mark for being very thorough with your reply.

Where I come from, we would call that response a, "He called a spade a spade."

Ok, I'm going to digest this for a night before I reply again.

I'm greally looking forward to see what others think about this huge story development, and I will respond tomorrow.

NOTE: I do believe this thread is going to get very interesting. Very very interesting.

Randall

Yea, sure... lets go ahead and make things interesting.

NOTICE that is an unsecured html page in your administration section that was put there by StackIdeas
How interesting is that.... want me to show you more of them?

Want me to demonstrate that because of a security hole that was purposefully left in EasySocial by the stack ideas team, that I can log into your website and delete the entire thing?

Someone has been doing a bit of an investigation, I was unaware of the SI id being placed into the admin area.

Josh Lewis wrote:

Someone has been doing a bit of an investigation, I was unaware of the SI id being placed into the admin area.

Yea, I am not posting the other links that I know of because I DO NOT want to demonstrate to a hacker how they can totally destroy someones website. But that ID link is just the tip of the iceberg. Things get REALLY nasty if you do a bit of digging.

Also, if you knew what information you are potentially sending back to StackIdeas every time you install EasySocial (and I assume their other extensions) you would not even think about installing any of them.

Hey Tango, it seems to me that you want ES to succeed after all. If you have found bugs kindly work with the SI team and not fight. Thank you for being kind and friendly after a long battle. Tango, thank you once again.

Seun,
You are absolutely correct that I WANT EasySocial to succeed. I honestly LOVE EasySocial.
I do not trust StackIdeas one bit, and honestly think Mark Lee is trying to frame me for piracy because he knows I discovered some of his security holes when I was a beta tester. I am hoping that after posting the link that I just posted he will understand that I know a lot more than I have let onto, and that he will reverse his accusation, before I prove by way of timestamps that I DID NOT pirate EasySocial, and that he is in fact stealing information from you (or so it would appear from his code) maybe he can justify the callback routines, hidden ID codes, and massive backdoors that allow an unsigned individual to access the EasySocial Admin panel.

Hey Tango,

I was aware of some call back routines and the link (ID number) you referenced, however the security holes do really concern me. Have you successfully managed to navigate around these issues with your own modified code? I really haven't had much time to really dig into the source code but after reading this thread I think I will.

Stack Ideas, a clear and transparent answer addressing Tango's security concerns would be really appreciated as I am sure the rest of the community are also very interested.

The security holes can be 'fixed' with htaccess (however there are ways to get past that as well) But 2 factor authentication and using a plugin to move your admin panel are both really good starts.

Blocking all outbound calls to StackIdeas and their IP addresses is another really good step, but this will require you to download the full install and patch that way every time there is an update.

Ok, cheers, thanks for the heads up.

Sorry, I just realized that many people have no idea how to use htaccess for securing their site. So just in case anyone wants/needs to know.
http://www.htaccesstools.com/articles/password-protection/

Good link Tango, I know this works because I've been blocked out from a Joomla admin panel that I was working for (before they told me the password).

If you use nginx then here is a basic guide: http://kbeezie.com/protecting-folders-with-nginx/ as you can not use htaccess files.

Hello Tango,

Thanks! It looks like you are right, we have missed out the code that was injected in the beta when you download the installer. It is fixed for good now. The index.html will not contain your user id

P/S: There is no calls made to our site at all apart from version requests. The only id injected was on the index.html as Tango mentioned and it has been removed now. Please re-download the installer

By the way, there are no security holes as Tango mentioned. I believe he was referring to the "user id" in the index.html file.

Mark,

When you return from your vacation, I would like to set up a Skype session with you to discuss the following very important issues:

1. Why you are allowing a known extension pirate to freely participate in the StackIdeas forums where us paid subscribers are here to trust that we can openly discuss the issues and bugs we encounter in our sites?

Paid subscribers often share the details of our sites created with StackIdeas extensions, and I for one will not have any trust moving forward especially if a known extension pirate is being able view or participate in the forums. This is a huge issue with me, as I am sure it will be with others that take their site investments and security seriously.

In my opinion, Tango is a blowhard and nothing more than an extension pirate that is exploiting the goodwill of Stackideas and I have extensive experience on how to deal with the likes of Tango should the need arise. I have a successful track record of effectively dealing with known software pirates, and the likes of forum disruptives like Tango, and if I need to reference Case Law in Canada, I will gladly post it later.

Condoning this person's actions without consequences and making apologies to this known extension pirate, especially after all the disruptive discussion threads that this non-paid subscriber participates in sets things on a very slippery slope for the integrity and security of the StackIdeas forums. Condoning this sort of non-paid extension pirates actions will serve only to give StackIdeas a perceptive black eye to some valued paid loyal customers.

Why would anyone trust having any engaging discussions on the forums knowing there is an admitted and known extension pirate able to at any time participate in the forums?

2. How do you plan to restore the integrity and trust in the forums back to an acceptable level to allow participation for paid subscribers ONLY, so they do not have to have any mistrust when discussing their site issues in the forums?

That means NO non-paid participants should be allowed to particpate in the forums, especially a known and admitted extension pirate.

Enjoy your vacation.

Randall

Mark wrote:

Hello Tango,

Thanks! It looks like you are right, we have missed out the code that was injected in the beta when you download the installer. It is fixed for good now. The index.html will not contain your user id

P/S: There is no calls made to our site at all apart from version requests. The only id injected was on the index.html as Tango mentioned and it has been removed now. Please re-download the installer

Ok.. so you really do want to play this game with me. I am truly sorry Randall. BUT you are the person who was the biggest jerk to me. And I really don't like you or your website.

and as far as we missed it!?!?!
Everyone, there is a program called WinGrep
unzip the installer, and run wingrep and search for your ID number
You will find that number in multiple other files.
MARK LEE IS LYING TO YOU!

Tango,

Re: 1. Ok.. so you really do want to play this game with me. I am truly sorry Randall. BUT you are the person who was the biggest jerk to me. And I really don't like you or your website. 2. MARK LEE IS LYING TO YOU!

1. You show your hand too often Tango. You are scrambling now to save face, yet your not doing a very good job of convincing anyone here that you can be trusted - because it is simple for anyone to see. You are a known and admitted extension pirate with an agenda to disrupt the focus and development process of StackIdeas extensions, and you use exploitative methods that are frankly, completely unacceptable. You can't ever be trusted again. PERIOD!

I do NOT associate with a known extension pirate and never will trust one EVER. You got that!

2. Mark Lee is not lying to anyone here. He has more integrity than you can imagine, and he does not lie to anyone here. He has bend over backwards to please everyone, yet you consistently take issue with Mark. Mark has numerous loyal supporters that will go out of their way to defend him when the need arises. You have crossed the proverbial line one too many times with me, and I will do what is necessary to continually expose you for what you are. A known and admitted extension pirate that has not paid for a valid subscription of EasySocial, and you should not be allowed to participate at all in these forums. Period!

Exposing you has been very easy. Seeing that you are banned from the forums forever will be on the highest bit order of my mission now. You have messed with the wrong person Tango. Years of experience always trumps a wannbe blowhard.

BSA Faces of Internet Software Piracy

StackIdeas is in the business to make world class software and sell subscriptions to paying honest customers, and they should never have to bow into exploitation from anyone. Especially an admitted extension pirate that got caught red handed uploading beta versions of EasySocial to WAREZ pirate boards. From what many of you have seen in this thread, it can be summed up to this. This is a huge risk to you as a Paid customer, and software piracy should never be condoned, and must be dealt with firmly.

Mark posted his response earlier and he caught a beta tester (Tango) had breached an agreement, whereby the beta tester (Tango) shared the early beta versions of EasySocial to Warez sites, or pirate boards when it was explicitly made clear that it was not acceptable and would not be condoned at all. This is not only a breach of an agreement that Tango made with Mark and StackIdeas, but a serious infraction of the software piracy law.

As a long time subscription PAID customer, I can not stand by and allow this to happen any longer. In order for the StackIdeas Team to keep delivering world class software and provide the level of software support that StackIdeas has become famous for to Paid customers, they need to be profitable, and this gets undermined, when someone takes it upon them self to upload any of the StackIdeas extensions to WAREZ or pirate board sites. This sort of illegal infraction undermines StackIdeas ability to sell valid software subscriptions.

Tango has admitted to being a Pirate, and he has been exposed here by Mark as to being a known uploader of StackIdeas EasySocial extension (Beta) to WAREZ sites.

You may think that Tango is some person that is looking out for your best interesting when Tango claims that Mark has knowingly and deliberately put code in the EasySocial that can be exploited on your site. Mark has corrected the issue. The BIGGER issue stills needs to be addressed.

How to deal with a NON-PAID known extension pirate lurking about the forums doing everything to damage the reputation of Mark and the StackIdeas Team.

Hello Tango,

Thanks! It looks like you are right, we have missed out the code that was injected in the beta when you download the installer. It is fixed for good now. The index.html will not contain your user id

P/S: There is no calls made to our site at all apart from version requests. The only id injected was on the index.html as Tango mentioned and it has been removed now. Please re-download the installer

If any sensible person in these forums have found possible issues with the software that could be potential security risks, they would have done the right thing and would have notified Mark and his Team immediately, and not gone to great lengths to exploit and embarrass Mark and his Team.

Tango has NOT PAID for a valid subscription. He is an admitted extension pirate, and he has accused Mark of many things that I and many others find completely unacceptable. he has been asked many times to follow the rules, yet Tango thinks the right exists to be a member of these forums.

I for one do not think Tango has any right to be here. Not now, after all that has happened.

This issue effects all Paid customers, and that is why it is important to not allow Tango to use exploitative methods to damage the reputation of Mark and the StackIdeas team and insult the integrity and honesty expected in these forums.

This is what Happens Should Happen to All Software Pirates
Real faces, real stories - all unscripted. Listen how five people from various walks of life got caught offering illegal software over the Internet through for-profit Web sites, auction sites, and private servers. As a result, these Five Faces of Piracy are paying for their actions with jail time, community service, and financial settlements.



For more information visit http://www.bsa.org/faces

Captain Tango wrote:

Honest question for the StackIdeas team and specifically Mark, I really do not need uninformed answers from the rest of the community here.

Here we are more than a week into October and still no updates at all on the roadmap. Have you guys just stopped working on EasySocial all together, or stopped caring about keeping the community updated on your progress level?

Your questions have been answered by Mark and now it is time for you to shut your cake hole.

Soon, I will post two published Financial articles and a (CASE LAW article used by Canadian and American lawyers in the software industry) and these were well known a number of years ago, and they will be posted here to show people what happens when the likes of a manipulative con artist named John Hampton Hickman III from upper state New York challenged me and sought to destroy a software company I founded and worked hard to built from scratch to employ 29 people and have a valuation of $98 million dollars back in 1994. This wannabe challenger and corporate pirate messed with the wrong person. John Hampton Hickman III, the self-proclaimed financial industrialist was brought down by me in the court of public opinion and within the judgment of the Canadian Law Courts, and he lost everything and was declared penniless 2 years after his challenge to destroy me was issued. I spent enormous resources to bring him down to set an example of him to show other entrepreneurs not to take any crap from anyone. What was Hickman's fate? John H Hickman committed suicide and was later found out to be a complete fraud, and not worth much of anything. He was royally exposed, drawn and quartered. He lost the Game that he played with me.

The two articles are well researched and vetted stories that will serve as a good example as to what happens to manipulative cons that exploit people for their own gain and sick ego.

So if you wanna challenge me little man, you had better understand who you are challenging. Do you want to play the GAME Tango?

Wow. interesting topic and interesting person tango is . Can someone educates us why it's bad to leave user ID in the index file??

Tango why are you disclosing the info about the security risk, do you care for us customers or you just want to point out the stackideas has been lying?


Mark & Tango seem to be relaxed, so i think the rest of members can chill as well :P !

Lessons from playing the GAME

Developing software is never easy, and things will always arise that will put all software companies at risk. To WIN in software development, you have to learn the rules of the game. The Higher Bit Order in any GAME is profitability, and software pirates are a huge risk factor to a small software company's profitability.

For those that want to learn some entrepreneurial lessons read further and learn about the many challenges a company will face.

Enclosed you will find two PDF files. These PDF articles will serve as an example and lesson as to what can happen to rising software companies when they have huge opportunities for success are at stake, and they have to focus on the Higher Bit Order to deliver world class software to their eager and loyal customers. If a software company doesn't effectively and decisively deal with issues that are damaging to the company and their reputation, things like this can happen. The damages are insurmountable.

To Tango - So little man - You are not of any concern to me at all Tango. I've had to deal with many issues. many a wannabe p[irates and corporate raiders, and many trolls online over the past 30 years, and I have had to deal with much bigger problems in my many years in the software and entrepreneurship area, and when I get challenged by someone, I take the challenge seriously and like any good ole hockey player from Canada, I play to WIN. And I am never nice about it on the ice. I am not your friend and never will be, and I do not trust you at all in any way and see you for what you really are - a known and admitted software pirate and nuisance. I do not appreciate the likes of ego centred little twerps like you that think they are a little more than wet behind the ears with experience in playing the challenge game.

This is what happened to ONE of a few people who challenged me when it came to my assets that I worked so hard to build. And you little man made a threat to my asset earlier today when you accessed my chamberanswers.com site. You fell right into it and you will now have your challenge accepted. But are you ready to play the game of your life?

Read on and find out what happened to the last idiot that challenged me publicly.

I have built two successful software companies and have extensive experience gained from years of lessons learned.

From 1998 to 1994, I worked extremely hard to build a successful software company out of my apartment in Vancouver, and I faced many challenges along the way to grow it from virtually no sales to millions in revenue, and have a market capitalization of $98 million in April 1994. Software pirates were the least of my troubles. A corporate pirate and con artist came into my company while I was out of town and convinced some people on the board to have me ousted from my own company after I broke my back and was paralyzed. Did I take it lying down? No, I fought back and I brought this ego inflated jerk down and I also made examples of those that perpetrated the opportunity for him to do so.

Enclosed are two documents in PDF format. If you like short novels and want to see first hand what happens all too often in the software and high tech industry then read both articles.

SUMMARY OF PDF ONE - TWO PUBLISHED ARTICLES

The Rise and Fall of John Hampton Hickman and what happened as a result of his nasty take-over of Motion Works – a Vancouver software company founded by Randall McCallum, a visionary pioneer of multimedia.

Article published in BC Business magazine in 1996 and Equity Magazine in 1997

The following are a number of due diligence story articles with footnotes on Motion Works and Randall H. McCallum, the founder and now CEO of Totally Hip and Jack Hickman III, supposed mega millionaire merchant banker that ousted McCallum out of Motion Works when McCallum was convalescing after suffering a broken back in April 1994 while playing hockey. John Hampton Hickman III was later brought down by McCallum, and Hickman finally committed suicide on February 23, 1997 after he declared he was penniless. Hickman committed suicide in his wife, CFUN radio host Pia (Shandel) Southam, a well-known Vancouver media celeb.Hickman’s father's Rolls Royce using the hose into the car from the exhaust system.

These articles had to been retyped in since BC Business does not have any archived stories. The notes have been added by various people in the know and based on notes taken at the time and also from our firsthand knowledge of these events, and from subsequent conversations with those connected with Motion Works.

This will give people a backgrounder on McCallum and where he has come from with his team and the length he will go to bring down con artists. This is quite a story and his tenacity to rebuild a career and new company with this team of loyal employees after having his first entrepreneurial venture destroyed in a board room coup only reviled by the one of Steve Jobs at Apple in 1985. This is the entrepreneurial spirit that VCs look for before they invest in technology companies. Invest in those with PASSION, TENACITY and DRIVE.

This story is about John Hampton Hickman the III, the central figure in ousting McCallum out of Motion Works on August 22, 1994. And what eventually happened that brought down John H Hickman a few short years later.

This story will serve as a guide to entrepreneurs as to what can and will happen in the wild west of computer software and high technology game.

STORIES BELOW - FULL Articles in PDF attached
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CHAPTER ONE

the WHITE KNIGHT in the Grey Wool Suit
Was Jack Hickman - a supposedly-loaded, eccentric intellectual and a leading participant in a nasty boardroom coup to take over high tech company Motion Works from its founder - misunderstood visionary or just another huckster?

by Shawn Blore from BC BUSINESS MAGAZINE - OCTOBER, 1996

ECCENTRICITY WAS JACK HICKMAN'S forte. Short of stature, stout of build, bald of head, Hickman wore nothing but Savile Row suits in town where scandals and Safeway socks will get you past the maître d' 19 times out of 20. He peppered his conversation with quotes from classical poets, dropped names the way other mortals toss away old pennies, and passed around a CV that could only have been printed by Vanity Pres. Listed in Marquis' Who's Who, with a certificate in Mandarin from Yale ('62) and an undergrad degree from Brown ('59), John Hampton Hickman III, entrepreneur and investment banker, had been at the helm of nearly a dozen companies, including First Bancorporation of Reno and Palm Beach County Utilities Corporation. He had taught as a visiting professor at several universities, including the University of Toronto and New York's Fordham University. Governments he claimed, had sought and paid for his advice. The 59-year-old Hickman even listed the education and achievements of his children and his current wife, CFUN radio host Pia (Shandel) Southam, a well-known Vancouver media celeb.

Hickman arrived in Vancouver in August, 1994 as the victorious white knight in a hostile takeover of Motion Works Corporation, a Yaletown multimedia company. The takeover was the first move in a campaign long in the planning. Hickman had a strategy to make Vancouver a world centre for multimedia production, the New Jerusalem of Next Wave. The name given this shining vision was the New Media Strategy.
Less than two years later the New Media Strategy lies in shattered fragments, as do the fortunes of countless people who bought into the vision. Forced from the Motion Works board room by the VSE (Vancouver Stock Exchange) after revelations of a dubious past, Hickman now spends time behind the hedges of his rented home in Kerrisdale (Vancouver). Many of the employees have been laid off, nearly all await back pay. Only time will tell if a last-minute salvage package put together by Motion Works' new owner - Greenlight, a Toronto communications company - will keep the company from foundering.

WHAT WENT WRONG? WAS JACK HICKMAN, in the words of his wife Pia, "a bit of a visionary, unappreciated in this town"? Or was he just another VSE sharpie, with a larger than average vocabulary and a slightly better tailor, WHOSE RUTHLESS TAKEOVER OF ANOTHER MAN'S COMPANY would come back to haunt him?As of early August 1994, Motion Works - the vehicle through which Hickman's New Media Strategy was to be realized - was still controlled and directed by its 35-year-old founder Randall McCallum. A self-taught programmer from Trail, (on B.C. border above Spokane Washington) McCallum had built Motion Works into a publicly-traded company employing more than 50 people by the end of July 1994 (26 when McCallum was running it up until April 2, 1994),
working on both multimedia development tools and CD-ROM titles.

Continued in the The Rise and Fall of Jack Hickman and Motion Works.pdf attached below.

To Read the FULL STORY and Article to find out what happened to Hickman, the man that took something that wasn't his to take, and in doing so he challenged Randall McCallum, and he didn't live much longer than two years after doing so.

Read the article attachments:

The Rise and Fall of Jack Hickman and Motion Works.pdf - Two articles combined into one pdf that tell the nasty story of a board room coup and the Rise and fall of a corporate raider, and the lengths the company founder would go to bring him down.

McCallum v. Motion Works Corp., 1994 2784 (BC SC) - CASE LAW article used by lawyers in Canada and the USA as a reference of law in cases involving technology companies.

Do you still want to play the GAME? Think about it, because I have all the time in the world to bring you down.

Ahmad Justin wrote:

Hi guys,

I've finally managed to get in touch with Mark; he's currently out of the country. He managed to go through this forum and was about to answer it when his Internet failed him. What he told me was that the Internet connection from his end is so bad that he cannot post a response. However, he will respond to this thread as soon as he's able to get a stable connection.

Thank you all for your kind patience and understanding.

Ahmad,

I posted a few pdfs above as attachments and I think you might want to print them off and read them i n your office. These articles will help explain why I am so protective and supportive of StackIdeas. I have a vested interest to see Stackideas succeed and I will NOT sit idle and allow some forum troll to bash you or Mark or your team's reputation. And he has breached my site now, and that is all I needed for Tango to do to provoke me to bring this issue to an end.

Consider my years of software business experience an accumulation of many successes and many lessons learned, and dealing with this issue should be swift and concise. You have paying customers that depend on Mark, you and the rest of the StackIdeas Team doing the right thing. Removing the impediment to success.

Tango is a huge impediment to success, and it is best to nip this one i the bud right away. Or you could find that you might lose some of the hard earned confidence and reputation you have earned to date.

You will do what you believe is right.

Enjoy the read.

Randall

If any of you want to know why I think it is important to expose people who exploit others, then this will serve as an example.

There is a fascinating story about the VSE corruption including Mafia involvement in drug transactions, money laundering, securities fraud, murder and suicide in connection with the stock exchange.

According to the information available on the Internet including court records and news accounts, Buffalo Capital was founded by John Hampton Hickman III.The mysterious Hickman was described in the venerable Marquis Who's Who as, "an entrepreneurial industrialist, investment banker and educator.Buffalo Capital Corp. was called his personal holding company.

Buffalo Capital's investments were, as described by Allison, in high-tech and biotech companies.Hickman had numerous subsidiaries including seven named Buffalo Capital I through VII.

In 1994 Hickman appeared in Vancouver, British Columbia and proceeded to ingratiate himself into the social elite controlling the Vancouver Stock Exchange (VSE).He managed to get himself appointed as Chairman of a struggling software firm, Motion Works, by promising to raise $10 million to keep the firm afloat.When he proceeded to hire friends and relatives at handsome salaries and awarded himself a large salary and stock options, several directors petitioned the VSE to investigate Hickman.

The VSE, which was rife with corruption at that time, took no action until it received anonymously information on a scam Hickman had pulled in the United States.

There is a fascinating story about the VSE corruption including Mafia involvement in drug transactions, money laundering, securities fraud, murder and suicide in connection with the stock exchange. It can be found at the May edition of the Globe and Mail's Report on Business.
...
A bankruptcy judge had lodged a judgment for $3.8 million USD (the amount embezzled plus triple damages) against Hickman, three of his Buffalo Capital companies and four trusts in Hickman's name.

When this information surfaced in Vancouver, Hickman and his family employees resigned from Motion Works.The creditor under the bankruptcy judgment obtained an injunction freezing Hickman's assets in both the U.S. and Canada.

Although Hickman had not contested the bankruptcy award, he chose to fight against the freeze of his assets.He was scheduled to give a deposition detailing his assets and their locations but before that could take place, he was found dead in his car in the garage, apparently a suicide from carbon monoxide poisoning.

In May of 1999, the same month that Peter Allison incorporated Biogenetic Ventures in Washington State, Buffalo Capital changed its name to M&A West Inc. (MAWI).It obtained listing in the over the counter exchange (OTC) and on the Boston Stock Exchange.

However the name change did little to stem the company's troubles.After losing a couple of trademark infringement suits, the investing community was stunned when the SEC charged MAWI with providing false and fraudulent financial statements to obtain listing on the exchanges.MAWI was delisted from the Boston exchange and had to restate its earnings for several accounting periods.

On Saturday, Feb. 22, 1997, John Hampton Hickman III, the former chairman of software firm Motion Works Group Ltd. went into the garage of his Vancouver home, climbed into his wife's Rolls-Royce, turned on the gas and died.Once a flashy member of the Vancouver social elite, Hickman was facing personal ruin after being ousted from his company and the collapse of his marriage.His suicide was the latest-but certainly not the last-death of a Howe Street hotshot.

WHO CONTROLS ANTHRAX VACCINE BOTTLER?

According to the information available on the Internet including court records and news accounts, Buffalo Capital was founded by John Hampton Hickman III.The mysterious Hickman was described in the venerable Marquis Who's Who as, "an entrepreneurial industrialist, investment banker and educator.Buffalo Capital Corp. was called his personal holding company.

Buffalo Capital's investments were, as described by Allison, in high-tech and biotech companies.Hickman had numerous subsidiaries including seven named Buffalo Capital I through VII.

In 1994 Hickman appeared in Vancouver, British Columbia and proceeded to ingratiate himself into the social elite controlling the Vancouver Stock Exchange (VSE).He managed to get himself appointed as Chairman of a struggling software firm, Motion Works, by promising to raise $10 million to keep the firm afloat.When he proceeded to hire friends and relatives at handsome salaries and awarded himself a large salary and stock options, several directors petitioned the VSE to investigate Hickman.
...
A bankruptcy judge had lodged a judgment for $3.8 million (the amount embezzled plus triple damages) against Hickman, three of his Buffalo Capital companies and four trusts in Hickman's name.

When this information surfaced in Vancouver, Hickman and his family employees resigned from Motion Works.The creditor under the bankruptcy judgment obtained an injunction freezing Hickman's assets in both the U.S. and Canada.

Although Hickman had not contested the bankruptcy award, he chose to fight against the freeze of his assets.He was scheduled to give a deposition detailing his assets and their locations but before that could take place, he was found dead in his car in the garage, apparently a suicide from carbon monoxide poisoning.

I see a fight scene coming. Don't worry, the Canadians are invited.

Josh,

You have an real good sense of humor.

Laughter, it's the only medicine I can afford. Thanks, your story reminded me of Jack Lime with how he got "ruined".

This thread has proved to be very distracting, and it really takes the focus off the successes that StackIdeas has accomplished to date. It is the one year anniversary of EasySocial and we are now at version 1.3. That is quite an accomplishment considering the great product that EasySocial has become.

What can StackIdeas learn from Steve Jobs about successful software development to build world class products?

SAY NO and FOCUS. - Focusing is about saying no. No, No No.

Steve Jobs made the following world changing comment during the 1997 Apple World Wide Developers Conference in 1997, in an open Q&A session, when he returned to be consultant to Apple. In the famous developer Q&A session Steve Jobs cut to the chase in his opinionated style with developers, and stated his reasons of why focus is about saying No.

"Focus is about saying No, and the result of that focus is some really great products where the total is much greater than the sum of the parts."
~ Steve Jobs WWDC 1997

The following is an edited trimmed down version of the full session at the 1997 WWDC. I created this video clip tonight, because I believe it is very important for StackIdeas and others to watch and learn from. Steve Jobs outlines what it takes to build great software he has strong opinions in this clip that can teach lessons to all developers.

The full video can be found here - Steve Jobs Q&A - WWDC (1997) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MrpLyUOo8

Saying No to Focus - Steve Jobs, Apple WWDC 1997


What are the fundamental directions that StackIdeas is going in and what makes sense and what doesn't?

The hardest thing about managing a software company is focusing.

"Well focusing is not about saying yes. No, focusing is about saying No. Focusing is about saying No. And you've got to say, No, No, No, and when you say No, you piss off people. You want to be nice to people. But you take your lumps." ~ Steve Jobs at a Q*A session with developers at the WWDC 1997

These famous comments were made by Steve Jobs at a famous Q&A sessions with developers at the Apple World Wide Developer Conference in 1997 after he was brought back into Apple in the acquisition of NeXT and their OS software, the OS that would later become Mac OSX, and set Apple on the path to the success it is today.

The success and future grow of EasySocial, EasyBlog and EasyDiscuss and Komento all depend on StackIdeas ability to remain focused on building great products.

The last thing the StackIdeas Team need is to get bogged down with having to deal with lowly hackers and extension pirates that troll the forums like this to constantly complain and demand answers from Mark. Mark answered the questions about the StackIdeas RoadMap for 1.4, and now it is time to move on and FOCUS.

As customers we should all tell Mark and his Team to just SAY NO to the outrageous and ridiculous demands of people like Tango that suck the life out of valuable resources in these forums. StackIdeas should just SAY NO to people that outrageous claims and demands about StackIdeas products.

As Steve Jobs said in his Q&A, sometimes you got to put a bullet in the head of some things to create great products, and it's time to remove the main distraction that is not allowing the SI Team to focus on their main goals.

Voice your opinion, and Just SAY NO to the distraction of someone like Tango that has never paid for the use of the EasySocial software, and put an end to his hostility and outlandish claims - so Mark and his Team can FOCUS on EasySocial 1.4 and EasyBlog 5, and provide great products, world class support and service to those that are paying loyal customers.

Randall

It's time to put a bullet in the head of this thread, and focus on being supportive of Mark and his StackIdeas Team so they can focus and deliver world class extensions.

To voice your opinions and valued ideas in a positive discussion thread that is all about being positive and being focused, go here:

http://stackideas.com/forums/steve-jobs-say-no-to-focus-easysocial-1-4-easyblog-5-roadmap

Tango, you can stay here and play in your empty room. I will not ever invite you into any thread I start or participate in. Got that?

It's time to Say NO to you. Now is time to FOCUS.

Everyone reading my posts here and before on jomsocial.com when I was their customers will acknowledge I am a full supporter of Mark and StackIdeas… However, Randall, English not being my mother tongue I could misunderstand, but did you say that Tango has hacked your site? Don't get me wrong, I'm not freaking out or anything (after all, my site is not sensitive material… just entertainment) but is this due to the allegations he made? Is this worth looking into or was it pure BS?

Hello Tango,

Captain Tango wrote:
Ok.. so you really do want to play this game with me. I am truly sorry Randall. BUT you are the person who was the biggest jerk to me. And I really don't like you or your website.

No, I do not want / intend to play any games with you You requested me to reply to this thread as you claimed that I was hiding and I am just replying you with pure facts here

Captain Tango wrote:
and as far as we missed it!?!?!
Everyone, there is a program called WinGrep
unzip the installer, and run wingrep and search for your ID number
You will find that number in multiple other files.
MARK LEE IS LYING TO YOU!

As posted in my reply earlier, this issue was because we have missed out the code which was injected on the beta release and if you try to download now, it no longer contains any user id in any index.html files. Try it now please, there is no point lying or cheating you because the source code is 100% open and there is no way for me to lie

To other users who are watching this thread, please take note that THIS IS NOT A SECURITY ISSUE. The issue is about your user id on http://stackideas.com was being generated in the index.html file of your EasySocial installation file. That's just about it . Even if he can provide your user id on our site, there's nothing really much anyone can do with the user id.

Also, please do take note that THERE ARE NO CALLBACKS OR PINGBACKS to stackideas.com as claimed by Tango. The only callback that is added is to retrieve the latest version number so that it can be displayed at the back end of EasySocial, language updates and news. In fact, I think I should be more transparent in this case, edit the file /administrator/components/com_easysocial/constants.php and you will notice several stackideas.com domains here.

// Services Server

define('SOCIAL_SERVICE_NEWS', 'http://stackideas.com/updater/manifests/easysocial');



// Updater

define('SOCIAL_UPDATER_LANGUAGE', 'http://lang.stackideas.com/easysocial');

That's just about it and I don't think this violates anything We are providing a service which you can call remotely to download language files, retrieve news and version numbers. As simple as that

Allow me to point out that there is a lot of overreacting going on in this thread. No one has hacked anyone, there are no tangible security threats linked to what Tango has pointed out. In terms of the whole piracy thing, well, that is between Tango and Mark to resolve any disputes related to piracy. If Mark can prove with 100% certainty that Tango has shared their products on Warez sites, then I do believe that it would be fitting to ban and revoke his license. Until then, he has a right to be on these forums as a paying customer with an active license. However, due to Tangos abusive nature towards other site members, I do believe that it would be appropriate to take some action. It might be wise to implement a warning/ban system.

For example, on first violation provide a warning, on second violation provide a 24 hour ban, on third violation 1 month ban and finally a permanent ban. With extreme cases warranting an instant ban.

Ultimately I am quite happy with transparent and non conflict approach that the Stackideas team has taken... and it is clear that there is a very strong community that is good at policing each other to ensure a high standard for the community. That said, I think we all agree that this thread has gone too far.

What I am getting at is... ignore this thread and lets reflect as a community on how to deescalate these type of issues, rather than escalating them in an attempt to help. (This goes for me too)

and @Randall, I agree with most of your points of view and arguments, and have always been a huge fan of all your posts. You are one of the pillars of this community. However, I do want to caution you to be careful to get too involved in these types of conflicts, because sometimes when we are so passionate and defensive of Stackideas we can escalate issues, instead of solve them. Myself included. I realize that I played a part in escalating this thread to where it is now... in my own attempts to defend Stackideas and discredit someone (Tango) who I felt was trying to discredit a team (Stackideas) and individual (Mark) who I have a lot of respect for and who I think has great integrity. So I just ask that as a community we reflect on how we can help deescalating issues, rather than escalating them in an attempt to "help".

Jannik,

I hear what your saying Jannik, and you always have good solid things to say that I respect very much.

Where I come from, people don't bow into, or coddle, or apologize to or for, or have any tolerance for people that consistently act like jackasses to other people. Especially when I was brought up by my parents to always respect my elders, and all other people.

To get respect where I come from, you have to give respect. Far too much of my valuable time has been wasted on this Tango, and this Tango has again and again hidden behind an anonymous identity like a coward and has attacked Mark and his team in so many ways that I find and others find are completely unacceptable in real life conversations. So why would I ever expect this social misfit to ever grow up and respect other people, or ever engage in proper respectful and meaningful conversations? There is no sense debating this. It's not going to change. I will not coddle or ever encourage this Tango to change ways.

I am following a simple rule Steve Jobs taught me many years ago. Press the delete key on this person. I have zero respect at all for Tango.

Claims to hack site
Perceived or otherwise, if this Tango ever comes near my site again, I will put the wrath of my extensive resources into tracking Tango down and dealing with Tango in the way that I learned works best long ago. To make sure it never happens again. In over 30 years Jannik, I have been involved with building technology and tools to make it easier for people to engage in conversations and and interact in online communities. I have been involved in rough and tumble situations, professional hockey, doing multi-million dollar deals, and in complex negotiations, and major projects, etc, and what I have always found to work best to get real productivity results is on thing.

Team Work. - Collaboration.

I go way back to the BBS days or bulletin Board Software days, and last night I got focused again on a special project I have been working on. It's been 20 years, yet last night made up for having it time capsuled.The timing is right.

Say No and Focus
I am back on my focus after this annoying distraction. It was my choice to get involved. I will always be protective of Mark and his team.

I am working on a Project that I am passionate about that I believe will interest you and others. Forum software hasn't really changed that much in 20 years. I just dug out a research paper and design documents that I created the other day from a bankers box that I had stored in the basement. This project received considerable attention in Apple`s Research and Design Group. I had not looked in this time capsule for 22 years. What a find. I found the long thought lost Chameleon Concept design documents, the disks and the major research papers that I put together back in 1988-92. After receiving backing from Apple, I managed to convince some VCs to finance the project to the tune of $3 1/2 million dollars. The project was canceled in August 1994 after I lost corporate control of my software company when broke my back and was paralyzed in a hockey accident. The software was never released. Too date I have not seen any software that does what Chameleon allows for.

I worked collaboratively with three of the best and brightest top of the line world class engineers working on the software from 1986 to 2001:

1. One is now a senior scientist at Netflix - From 1990 to 2000 I collaborated with Rajiv and the team on world class software. In 1995 my second company pioneered interactive video streaming software and technology. Client server model. Get the connection to what Netflix is doing now? Raj was one of the best and brightest.

2. One is now a senior engineer at Apple - From 1990 to 2000 I collaborated with Steve and the team on interactive media software . Steve is an expert in Apple QuickTime and interactive media container technology. Get the connection? Steve is by far one of the strangest but super smart, brightest engineers I ever worked with.

3. Alex - Independent software contractor - contract for hire engineer. Super bright person, and he could code the socks off anyone. He was into gaming and apps, and he was a real rebel. Crazy Para sail guy. Shaved an Apple logo in the back of his head and had it dyed blue.

There were others, but these three were the best and brightest.

The FORUM Farm Yard
My interest is to engage in meaningful conversations about solving real world issues, in business, technology, etc, and not be a referee, or a protector of other's reputations, or a baby sitter to the likes of an unruly Tango. To use an analogy, this forum thread has become like a farm yard, with the animals are running in all directions mainly because one farm animal is making all the fuss, flicking mud around in all directions, causing issues with all the other animals in the farm yard. Which farm animal is always so pig headed? The farmer had a solution. Put the pig in a pen. Where they can muck about to their hearts content.

I learned this from Peter Thomas, one of my mentors back in in the 1990s. Long ago, but it always applies.

Never Fight with a Pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.



This is one of the paragraphs from the Chameleon Concept Business Plan document. It was written in January 1991. I have to get the documents, content, source code etc, off an old Macintosh disk and some backup Zip Drives some time this week.

1. What is the Business Focus

Analysis of high technology firms leads one to conclude that they are highly focused. However, lurking beyond our definitions of humans as tool users and language users is a prior concept of humans as information users. Information and it's use allows us to build and use tools and to express ourselves in language.

Today, we live in a world of information glut. To survive in today's society, we need to use and access information. It's a world in which real productivity gains will come only by getting society to work together in new ways. This new society is a world in which we live, and I envision a set of tools that are appealing enough and easy enough to use so that humans can share ideas and information or self-knowledge in new ways.

It is six pages and it goes on to become a manifesto for team collaboration, and the steps and stages to make it happen.

I was very driven and passionate back then, and my first software company it started in 1998 pioneered multimedia tool building and content creation tools, and media containers (storage) because they didn't exist. We just got started building the 3rd stage of the Chameleon Concept project when all hell broke lose in 1994. Fast Forward to today.

I will invite you and Josh and others soon to this new site. It was designed to allow a number of people to collaborate on building a site together (using StackIdeas extensions, Joomla 3.3.6 and other tools, etc,) and in order to collaborate and so this it requires HONESTY, INTEGRITY and TRUST from all participants because allowing the access levels to Joomla can present challenges, and vetting people as trustworthy to be involved in this invite only at this stage project is important. The goal of the site is simple.

To build a knowledge bank where people can collaborate and store self-knowledge, and collaborate on group (or team) knowledge to solve real world problems. EasySocial 1.4? EasyBlog 5? EasyDiscuss 4? Joomla, Etc.

What gets learned in this collaborative community serve to resolve StackIdeas forums evolving in new and exciting ways. Right now we all use EasyDiscuss to collaborate and discuss things, but not the combination of EasyDiscuss, EaysBlog and EasySocial. The demo site on StackIdeas is not set up to allow us to do what I am proposing we collaborate on.



Making effective use of the tools at hand to evolve them. This requires people to collaborate on Iterative and Incremental development

Overview - Source: See Wikipedia
Iterative and incremental development - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iterative_and_incremental_development

A simplified version of a typical iteration cycle in agile project management

The basic idea behind this method is to develop a system through repeated cycles (iterative) and in smaller portions at a time (incremental), allowing software developers to take advantage of what was learned during development of earlier parts or versions of the system. Learning comes from both the development and use of the system, where possible key steps in the process start with a simple implementation of a subset of the software requirements and iteratively enhance the evolving versions until the full system is implemented. At each iteration, design modifications are made and new functional capabilities are added.

if you know anything aboutGeoff Moore's classic three-part marketing series, Moore provides highly useful guidelines for moving products beyond early adopters and into the lucrative mainstream market. I was taught this model while at the Apple Training Group back in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Once a product "crosses the chasm" it is faced with the "tornado," a make or break time period where mainstream customers determine whether the product takes off or falls flat. In Inside the Tornado, Moore details various marketing strategies that will teach marketers how reach these customers and how to take advantage of living inside the tornado in order to reap the benefits of mainstream adoption.

We are at that stage with EasySocial 1.4, EasyBlog 5, and Joomla 3.3.6 and EasyDiscuss 4 is on the design and development horizon. Don't you think we can come up with an innovative collaborative forum environment that seamlessly flows into EasySocial 1.4 and beyond and EasyBlog 5 and beyond?

Book Source: http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Tornado-Strategies-Developing-Hypergrowth-ebook/dp/B000FC12BY



We have limited control over the forums and EasySocial 1.3 is available now, and why aren't we all collaborating in an environment that we can be INSIDE the TORNADO and funneling our learned knowledge back and forth between the StackIdeas special section forum that I propose and this collaborative site. It is hosted on Siteground etc, with Cloud access etc. If we collaborate together and back and forth with Mark and his Team we can all that learn and the knowledge can be shared to StackIdeas customers in the forums.

The Ultimate Knowledge Bank -

- Profiles
- Points
- Achievements
- Groups,
- Events
etc etc.

It is all there to do it, but we can't administrate it. Your thoughts on this Josh and Jannik and others would be appreciated?
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As far as the issues with Tango on StackIdeas and the forums?

Whatever Mark decides to do, it is his choice. Whatever he does decide to do, I do hope that he implements or turns on the ability to moderate the forums.

Randall

Chameleon Project - Phase One

Inside the Tornado Graphic

First of all, I think you would appreciate the resource I shared here: http://stackideas.com/forums/tip-for-entrepreneurs-and-startup-founders-free-stanford-y-combinator-lectures-available

Secondly, I love the idea of cross integration and forum software disruption that you are suggesting. However, to be very honest with you, your your description is very wordy without any specifics, I do not quite understand what you are suggesting or envisioning. I do not know how well developed the idea is at this point, but I would appreciate a straight to the point elevator pitch. You really need to streamline and simplify the idea. Think of the KISS concept, Keep It Simple Stupid.

P.S. I just moved to Mexico from Vancouver a year ago, I believe you are from BC, Canada are you not? If that is the case, then I agree with your little to no bullshit tolerance thing you mentioned. Although I would say that outside of the sport of Hockey most people are very non conflict. (Do note I spent 6 years living in Halifax, and only a year and a half in Vancouver, so my verdict of Canadians is greatly influenced by Maritimers)

Sébastien Agogué wrote:

Everyone reading my posts here and before on jomsocial.com when I was their customers will acknowledge I am a full supporter of Mark and StackIdeas… However, Randall, English not being my mother tongue I could misunderstand, but did you say that Tango has hacked your site? Don't get me wrong, I'm not freaking out or anything (after all, my site is not sensitive material… just entertainment) but is this due to the allegations he made? Is this worth looking into or was it pure BS?

Sébastien,

You are like the vast majority of people. You fully support the developers.

You are here to learn and solve real world issues. The last thing you need is to become paranoid or majorly concerned about the security of your site because of sharing or accessing information in these forums.

You can completely TRUST Mark Lee - StackIdeas. You can always Trust every member of the Stackideas Team.

Can you TRUST other Members? - Of course you can. But like anything else in life use the Trust But Verify method.

One would like to hope that you can trust all members in these forums. But there is a disconnect:

- Trust is established by building relationships with other members in the forums.
- These forums are supposed to be for paid customers, and there has to be a level of TRUST established between Members in the forums.
- It is always good to be cautious, but use the Trust but Verify method by exploring and interact with other members.
- If a member breaches TRUST with others it is very easy to find out. Check the threads and learn who you can trust by asking questions and being observant in the forums.

Trust is a major part in the foundation of any successful forums, and this trust is established by building successful interpersonal relationships. It is just as easy to build trust as it is to break it down. If a members interpersonal relationships in the forums are plagued by suspicion and fear, making a commitment to building trust with other members rather than destroying trust with cynicism can help you to better connect with everyone in these forums.

To establish TRUST in the forums, use the forum software and Members Profile page.

- Are they reliable?

Use Member Profiles to your advantage to find out who is someone you want to check or find out more about:

1. Click the Members name in threads, and this will take you to that members Profile Page.
2. You can find out more about this members forum activity by clicking on the options:
Questions - Unresolved - Replies - Tags - Badges

Just because someone doesn't fill out their profile, or has a funny or strange avatar does NOT mean that they are someone to not trust.

Look for the red flags or identifiers by digging into the threads they participate in the forums.

Are they:
- Helpful and knowledgeable and readily shares information with others
- Asks questions, but they also reply to threads to help others
- The EasyDiscuss software used in these forums is very robust and it is designed to be a knowledge base of a members activity on the forums.

Some members are shy or do not interact much, so look for those members that are established longer term members.

Ask questions of others. People will usually respond to any questions asked by other members.

To find out about somebody in the forums, click on their member name in a thread or their profile avatar photo.

Example: Josh Lewis is a super smart young man that members can trust. So is Jannik and so are many members that I know in the forums.

I created this quick video screencast for you to show you how to use a Members Profile page to help you establish relationships with others and form a bond of TRUST.

Navigate Member Profiles to establishing trust in the forums



When someone like Tango breaches that trust with people, the red flags go up.

As far as Tango claiming to access my site: Here are some things to consider:

1. Tango is someone who has made claims to be a pirate and a hacker in the forums, and he claims to have accessed my site. When things like this happen, then trust with me and others in the forums immediately breaks down. There are numerous threads that I could dig back through to point out when Tango has made these claims.
- Tango will delete them or modify them to cover tracks so as to appear not to state such things.
- Tango has changed user identity on these forums no less than 3 or 4 times. Tango remains anonymous therefore the element of trust breaks down.
- Tango posted threats about accessing my chamberanswers.com site. I will dig these threat replies out if Tango hasn't edited them or deleted them.
- I am not worried about my site as I have security measures in place and I also will add more when I optimize my site.

2. Tango is someone who hides tracks and goes back and changes or edits thread posts and replies after the fact in numerous threads that he has replied to. I believe it is done to cover tracks after Tango gets outed or exposed as making certain claims supporting the pirate hacker persona portrayed. This is the breakdown in TRUST.
- I just looked for one particular thread and can't find it. Either I mis-placed it or Tango deleted it to cover his tracks. If I had more time I would do a complete audit of his claims and activities claiming such things.

- If Tango wanted to inform others or the StackIdeas Team about security risks in StackIdeas extensions, then Tango showed the less than TRUSTING method to do so, by using methods to exploit or manipulate the situation. Tango always wants something for anything offered in the forums.Like Tango should be duly rewarded by Mark for this information. This is where the TRUST really breaks down.
- People should freely share this sort of information, ad Tango could have gained lots of credibility by using the right method, but chose otherwise and breeds complete mis-TRUST.

3. I DO NOT TRUST Tango at ALL. Period. This happened because of Tango and the actions of Tango towards the StackIdeas team to Mark and to others in the forums. This was not always the case. The trust was breached with me in the past while. At one time this member was a respected but a dispute happened and things digressed from there to the state of NON-TRUST that I have for Tango today.

Therefore, I find it to be a huge security risk for me or anyone else being in the same forums with someone like Tango, because this member claims to be a pirate and a hacker. That is a red flag to me and others.
- He has been caught uploading the beta extensions to WAREZ sites, and that is enough for me to not TRUST Tango at ALL.

4. Should you worry about your site?
You should take all proactive security precautions that are required to properly managing a server and Joomla based site.
- There are excellent articles on securing a Joomla site available. When I get more time I will list them in a forum thread I am creating.
- I suggest that you always take Mark's advice and information, or posted information as the first line of TRUTH in these forums.
- Mark has said that there are no risks and that should be made clear to everyone. Perhaps someone can link to Mark's response. I think it is above in this forum thread.
- Josh and Jannik are completely TRUSTWORTHY bright young people, and they are always helpful to people in the forums.
- There are many many other very TRUSTWORTHY and helpful knowledgeable members of this forum.
- Ask questions is @josh @jannik @Richard and the many other members. They will help when asked.
- The best way to search for knowledgeable members is to click on their name or avatar and follow it back to their Profile page and to start interacting with members in the forums.


This is my last discussion about the Tango. I have many things to do, and as said earlier it is best to de-escalate the thread situation.

I hope this helps. I type fast and I know English is not you first language and that is why I created the video for you.

Randall

Jannik Laursen wrote:

First of all, I think you would appreciate the resource I shared here: http://stackideas.com/forums/tip-for-entrepreneurs-and-startup-founders-free-stanford-y-combinator-lectures-available

Secondly, I love the idea of cross integration and forum software disruption that you are suggesting. However, to be very honest with you, your your description is very wordy without any specifics, I do not quite understand what you are suggesting or envisioning. I do not know how well developed the idea is at this point, but I would appreciate a straight to the point elevator pitch. You really need to streamline and simplify the idea. Think of the KISS concept, Keep It Simple Stupid.

P.S. I just moved to Mexico from Vancouver a year ago, I believe you are from BC, Canada are you not? If that is the case, then I agree with your little to no bullshit tolerance thing you mentioned. Although I would say that outside of the sport of Hockey most people are very non conflict. (Do note I spent 6 years living in Halifax, and only a year and a half in Vancouver, so my verdict of Canadians is greatly influenced by Maritimers)

Jannik,

Where in Mexico?

I was thinking about going to La Penitas for the winter. I lived in Mexico for a few years in the Yucatan and the Baja, for a number of years during my retirement from 2000 to 2006.

Just as I read your post, I was just finished up editing things on the site and trimming it down to as you say the condensed KISS version to describe it. Mission statement, one page business plan, manifesto, etc, all that stuff expected of a startup venture to do the elevator pitch.

====
Pitch:

Where StackIdeas Fans Go to Find, Learn, Collaborate, and Inspire.
or
Where StackIdeas Extension Fans Go to Find, Learn, Collaborate, and Inspire.

A virtual Extension Learning and collaboration network, at your fingertips

- Member-reviewed open educational resources
- Learning videos & courses
- Online community of experts
- Share/store your own resources

=====

I was hoping Mark would create a site that allowed us more access to the ACL for this, but they are very busy and taxed for time. So I decided to create a site to allow for this, and my goal is to invite other members to join. Rather than build it out too far, I believe that I should invite other interested people as I find out their interest level. At this time we can't use EasySocial to collaborate on ideas and see changes right away unless it is on an external site. The EasySocial demo site is not set up for this.

Think of this site as a crowd sourced collaboration network created and used by passionate StackIdeas customers. It cost me the domain name of $9.95 and I am hosting it on my Siteground server.

I will post what the site is for and how we can all learn from each other and benefit in a few days. Think of it as an open-source collaboration network for those that want to learn and improve StackIdeas extensions by using the software to build the site.

The elevator pitch could be part of the discussion. It can always be improved and condensed down.

I try to avoid conflict all the time, but when someone gets my dander up it brings that former protector hockey player out in me. I grew up in a mining and smelting town, and I am Scottish and Irish decent. Plus part native Indian. A little rough around the edges, but for the most part 99% of the time, I get along with everyone. I also lived in France and Switzerland, and for six months in Fredericton New Brunswick. I love it back east. Will visit again some day.

Randall

Well I am currently in Queretaro, but I spend my time split between Mexico City, Queretaro and Acapulco right now. After January when my 2 co-founders from Denmark and 1 co-founder from Canada move to Mexico to build our first Headquarters I might pick a different city not sure. I have never been to Yucatan or Baja. I have considered moving to Baja to be driving distance from Silicon Valley though. Also my mother does a lot of Business in Tijuana and travels there regularly.

I look forward to hearing more about his idea of yours and collaboration site. Count me in.

Nice, I have spent a lot of time in all the places you mentioned both the European locations and Canadian. I even dated a girl who lived in Fredericton for a year or two. Personally I was born in Holland to a Danish father and Mexican mother. Lived in Holland, Denmark, Japan, Canada (Both coasts), Mexico and I have spent countless summers in Italy etc.

I have literally grown up traveling the world. By the age of 8 I had visited 24 countries worldwide, and I have since lost track. So cultural diversity is something I care deeply about

Hi Randall

I really like your idea:

Pitch:

Where StackIdeas Fans Go to Find, Learn, Collaborate, and Inspire.
or
Where StackIdeas Extension Fans Go to Find, Learn, Collaborate, and Inspire.

A virtual Extension Learning and collaboration network, at your fingertips

- Member-reviewed open educational resources
- Learning videos & courses
- Online community of experts
- Share/store your own resources

Take some one like myself. And I do not think I am alone in here ;-)

I do pretty much every thing on my Site from getting the favicon working too My Pop UP Roll Over Video workflow working! Arggghhhhh.

I really know very little about HTML/CSS/My SQL/PHP etc but some how always seem to muddle my way through things. Thanks to amazing SI products, forums and Co.

I learnt to cook by reading the ingredients on canned food! And experimenting. And consider myself to be a pretty decent cook 25 years later. I´ve being working on my current Site intensively for about 2 years now. I have quite some way to go but the foundations are pretty much all there.

And I am figuring out more and more stuff on my own. Learning how to build a Site just from reading forums. Pretty much as I learned to cook from reading the labels on food! I give myself another couple of years and I will be a pretty decent Community Manager with a crazy broad set of skills!

What I am really good at is the whole Video Side of things both creatively and technically and this is where I come clean. I am a Meta Data freak! Meta Data is contained in video these days and could be anything from the time of day to GPS location.

Here is an example if the kind of thing that really rocks my boat. I was editing a documentary about Brazil Nuts in pre Meta Data days. Which basically consisted of 40 hours of material of people wandering around a rain forest getting lost waiting for nuts to drop! Much of the material consisted of out of focus images of leaves. There was a place in this 40 hours of material where 2 groups of people meet. I searched for hours for this place.

Enter Meta Data. If for example I know the date and time they meet I could find them with Meta Data just like that!!! If I know the latitude and longitude of where they meet I can also find them straight away… It is just a question of entering the co-ordinates!

I think it is safe to say that I have moved past the point of embedding a couple of you tube videos in a Blog post. And have lots of crazy ideas of how online videos should be taken to the next level! But do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle. I am also kind of bored of watching other people implement the kind of stuff I want to implement only worse ;-) I am thinking search and make up playlists on the fly kind of stuff all in beautiful SI boxes! Kind of like pearls on a chain.

This is where I am going out on a limb… I was talking with a friend about 4K. Which put simply is Cinema quality. The big debate is whether it is really going to catch on etc. I pointed to a stereo that happened to be in the room we were in and made a prediction… I said within 3-5 years even Stereos like that will have 4k displays… Whether any one needs a 4k display on a stereo is another matter.

Cutting to the chase. Reading threads like this is hard work. Sorry that my own contribution is way too long. But videos that is another matter. Basically I do not really see my self blogging in the classical way in 3-5 years. I think that pretty much every thing I do will revolve around video. In a weird kind of way I see myself going full circle through the Stackideas trip. And yes it is a trip. And a good one at that. I have probably spent literally years of my life sitting in forums. Such as the LA Final Cut one! And have meet some amazing people in the depths of such online forests! And hand on heart the tone and attitude in the SI forums with a couple of obvious exceptions is MOST EXCELLENT.

This is my round about way of saying… I for one am interested interested in contributing to your upcoming site in my capacity of video expert and the great thing about being an expert is that there is still sooooo much to learn :-)

I like your light bulbs in a chandelier analogy

best

Paul

Here is the Stereo in Question. Fairly standard stuff

Thanks for your answer Mark, that's exactly what I was hoping to read. I definitely trust you, but I wanted a clear answer to his allegations so in everybody's mind, there is no doubt or whatsoever!

Way to go SI !

Thanks for the heads up on this I am also curious as well.

Hi Randall, Jannik, Josh, Mark etc.

I have been following this thread with great interest. I have enjoyed reading all the stories and quirky comments, and Randall, your story was particularly moving and very inspiring! I too am interested in your new site - is there room for a little one Are there any restrictions? Is it open to females too?

I am a bit like one of the last posters, who is mostly self taught with regards to Joomla, web development etc. I can't code at all all - only adapt existing code, which is why companies like stackideas suit me perfectly as I can adapt and tailor theirs (and other developers) products to suit my needs.

Mel

@Randall that's an awesome idea could it happen on this forum or on an ES sandbox hosted by stackideas? I'd hate for stackideas developers or newbies to be once-removed from the fulcrum of ideas.

@Paul how about providing added metadata on-the-fly / in real-time within ES? I dream of a social-focused editing environment something like this.

Also, what do you think of interactive videos such as Meet Me At Starbucks and The Live in Levi's Project?

It would be cool to enable the stories (i.e. videos) of social network members to be curated and collected in this way (interactive videos) --- imagine this type of ES video-editing App to take social network a step beyond by making it easy to accomplish. I suppose I'm thinking of something like open software PopcornMaker taken in and tailored by stack for ES.

Hi Eileen

I will take a look at those links with a fresh mind tomorrow. But just off the top of my head. It is important to break Meta Data down into its components.

Here is the simple version

A) Source Metadata

Source Metadata is stored in the file from the outset by the camera or capture software e.g.: timecode, date, GPS data etc

B) Added

Added Metadata is beyond the scope of the camera or capture software and has to come from a human. e.g.: keywords, comments, transcription.

C) Derived

Derived Metadata is calculated using a non-human external information source e.g.:speech recognition software can produce a transcription, a language algorithm can derive keywords from a transcription etc

D) Inferred

Inferred Metadata is metadata that can be assumed from other metadata without an external information source. It may be used to help obtain Added metadata. Examples:

time of day and GPS data can group files that were shot at the same location during a similar time period (if this event is given a name, it is Added metadata)

I lifted that all from here:

http://www.philiphodgetts.com/2009/01/what-are-the-different-types-of-metadata-we-can-use-in-production-and-post-production/

A word of caution Meta Data is a rabbit hole and it goes as deep as you want it to go. So before talking about editing Meta Data I think it is important to break things down and be clear about what type of Meta Data you want to edit and why…

This is one of my all time favourite videos:



Lets say I want to run a series of videos on installing Easy Social…

Do I need to install Joomla
If I have Joomla installed what version do I have
Maybe I want to install plugin XYZ and how I do this effected by my Joomla version etc

Thus if I enter the right criteria into a database of Meta Tagged videos, I could get a tailored course so to speak. Now twist this around and have multiple people contributing to this course. e.g. I am on Joomla 2.5 so I could demonstrate installing plugin XYZ in Joomla 2.5 but not in Joomla 3.x. Maybe you are in Joomla 3.x so you can demonstrate this in 3.x.

Intuitively that means for me that one ends up in some place like this:



Which is kind of mad place to be! I can not believe that I just wrote all that stuff. As I said (for the sake of my own sanity) I will check your links tomorrow…

best

Paul

THANK you Paul. I just read your post and you've added a correct vocabulary and therefore some clarity to myself as I re-read my post so I've edited my prior post using what I think are the correct terms and added another link for when you check out those links. Now I need to re-read your post and check out your links as well --- tomorrow. Now I remember I also have to re-read your post in another thread which discussed multi-camera editing I believe. There's so much to do I fit in my "continuing education" when I take a break --- thanks again.

Hi Eileen

Lets move this conversation over to your other thread. The Event Hang out one. It might just be a little more focused Am working on a response.

best

Paul

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Good day, Mark! and Happy new year! (2015 ;-)
Please, could you tell about date when we will get EasySocial 1.4 version?
http://stackideas.com/roadmap/easysocial?milestone=1.4.0 at Roadmap all changes not started yet.

I still do not see any reason to renew the license. Having invested in your project at its start (bought the first version), I lost a lot of visitors in my project (due to the increased load on the site, due to defects, lost a lot of time waiting for the translation).
And now (do not remove the same) waiting for the same will be something useful and good to renew the license.

Also I asked at Voices: "Forum app displays posts that user takes part in the conversation" - now I can't see this part of your site because havn't paid subscriptions.
(also we spoke about this problem here http://stackideas.com/forums/how-get-more-than-5-post-at-forum-app at september 2014)

also Kunena migration process is out mysql database... may be function like forum posts is my site's problem, but haevy site loading, breaking mysql migration procecces are together problems.

and what about upcoming birthday module and option with email sending?

and login and registraion with different social network like here - http://www.barnation.org/community (VK, linkedin, OK.com, twitter etc.)?

I have been waiting and waiting and waiting (patiently)for an update on the Roadmap 1.4 just so I can eventually have extended photo details (not Videos) and now can see that this have been removed from the Roadmap altogether !!

Poor.... Sorry guys, you are all very nice, work hard etc etc but this just feels all too Jomsocial now. To not update the Roadmap for months and months and then the only update is to change the version numbers, remove long awaited updates for 1.4 and all future planned features....this is not the transparent Stackideas of yesteryear .

Regards,

Dave

(and yes I am aware of the following message "Kindly please take note that the list here is not final and we may add or remove any functionality if we see fit."

http://www.jomsocial.com/features/road-map

Hello Dave,

We are actually reorganizing our roadmap as we are trying to achieve a different approach for our release cycle after EasyBlog 5 is out. I will be posting a blog post regarding this once the alpha release of EasyBlog 5 is out.