By Paul Murray on Friday, 29 January 2016
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Hi SI Team & Community

As of now I am using EB & ES to organise training videos. Maybe ED at some point…

This is my exact workflow as of now.


A) I write a blog post:

http://finalbug.net/blog/entry/546-subtitles-in-fcpx-part-01

in a Blog group called “Beginners FCPX”
I post this in a ES Group called "Learn FCPX"

http://finalbug.net/groups/item/17-learn-fcpx

and insert videos from Vimeo into the Blog post.



B) Next up, I want the videos to also display on a ES Videos page

I go to an ES group in this case:

http://finalbug.net/groups/item/17-learn-fcpx

Then I go to the videos section:

http://finalbug.net/videos/group/17-learn-fcpx

I select a category for the video in this case I set a category up called “Final Cut Pro”
I insert the video in question.
In this example:

https://vimeo.com/153280910

Add description etc and insert a link to a related blog article

http://finalbug.net/blog/entry/546-subtitles-in-fcpx-part-01

in the ES Videos Category “Beginners FCPX”


Short version of my workflow:

The different categories that I have to match up in different SI Components. Just does not seem right!

As of now:

EB Blog = “Beginners FCPX”
ES Group = “Learn FCPX”
ES Video Category = “Final Cut Pro X”

And I have no way of linking the video to the related blog post.
Not even with a Hyper link!


First question

Is there a way to get the link that I insert in the video description on the ES Video to go to the Blog article!
As of now it is just a text link with no hyper link functionality.
This seems to me to be rather unfortunate. Feature Request ;-)
Please see screen shot if this sounds confusing.


My second question

Would it not be great to have cross component categories!?!?!?!?!
Also categories within categories.

e.g.

“Learn FCPX” / Beginners
“Learn FCPX” / Advanced
“Learn Resolve” / Beginners
“Learn Resolve” / Advanced

That work across different Stackideas components!
From EB Blog Posts, ES Groups, ES Videos, ED Discussions etc

What happens if I end up using ED and it is intergrated in EB/ES.
Will I need a fourth category?

And dare I say it that is could all be integrated with a Payment Gateway.

I am not NUTSABOUTCODE but I am nuts about joining the dots…

Paul
Hey Paul,

No worries at all I just find it very difficult at times to read your posts because it's extremely long haha. I strongly recommend users to use point forms because like myself, I read close to about 200 e-mails / forum posts daily and reading a very long post makes me sad

Example of point form:

1. I wish that EasySocial has xxxx
2. I have a problem with xxxx

Another example:

I have some problem with EasySocial and you can replicate it with the following steps:

1. Do this
2. Do that
3. Click the Detonate button
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Monday, 01 February 2016 00:29
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I think you are expecting the software to perform specific "macro" that suits your needs and unfortunately we can't add this into the extension to accommodate for your workflow. It just doesn't sound and work right.

Based on what I understand of your requirements, if you are talking about automation, wouldn't it make sense if you post a video on Vimeo and that video also get's posted on EasySocial?

Cross component categories will not and will never work. Why? Try to click on a category on a blog and compare the output of the items versus clicking on a category of a group. They all behave and work differently. Let alone, it is impossible to perform pagination on foreign objects.
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Saturday, 30 January 2016 11:37
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Hi Mark

I really appreciate that you take the time to deal with stuff like this.
And yes I understand that you can not/should not make every one happy.
I am really talking about site navigation and it not breaking down.

i.e. Post an article in a group/ post video in an article/view videos on a video page.

As of now things break for me going from a video to a related article.

Please see the screen shot for how I implement this on Vimeo!

Please note the link on the page here:

https://vimeo.com/122006664

which goes here:

http://finalbug.net/blog/entry/400-edit-in-resolve-the-fcp-way-part-01

This is me just thinking aloud here:
If some one goes to a video page and if the video is related to a blog article I think it is reasonable to “expect” a hyper link.
In a sense the lack of a hyper link from a video on the video pages is as far as I can see the only thing missing in this work flow!

If you could add this I would be extremely grateful.

Yes it would be nice to be able to add links for “Previous Video” & “Next Video”.
But I can work around this with playlist if required so it is not the end of the world.

With respect to Stackideas video functions.
Yes I want to use all that stuff that you and your team implemented.
However I am not ready to go down that road:

a) I am hosted at site ground and to the best of my knowledge they still do not support the “ffmpeg” side of things.
b) Even if I could find an alternative they would probably be too expensive for me as of now
c) If I get Vimeo Plus I have “Domain Level Privacy” which I guess means that I can say that the videos are only viewable on finalBUG.net.

https://vimeo.com/upgrade

That is the plan as of now.
I think if I could get this one link thing working the Stackideas eco system would work for me.
Then I have to think about where to put the gate for the gateway!?!
Intuitively I can not help thinking that the entrance to Group ABC would be the best place for this.

One more thing.
With respect to categories and this is with no knowledge of code etc.
This is just me thinking aloud here.
What about “Smart Categories” just as you have “Smart Folders” on the finder level of Mac OS X.

First Question

a) Link to article would be seriously cool to have
b) Link to Previous/Next video would be very nice to have.

Second Question

A better Category system. Just throwing the idea out there if something like this might be a solution at some point!?!

thanks for your time Mark

I appreciate it

all the best

Paul
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Sunday, 31 January 2016 18:56
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ps I can no longer edit the post above.
Un case I am not being clear enough.

The bottom line is

I am trying to replicate how things work in Vimeo in Stackideas.

i.e. the hyperlink from video ABC

eg

http://finalbug.net/videos/group/18-learn-resolve/20-davinci-resolve-edit-part-01/item

to post XYZ

eg

http://finalbug.net/videos/12-davinci-resolve
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Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:05
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As I understand, basically all you just want is the ability to insert hyperlinks in video description . I really don't understand why do you like to post such lengthy posts. It really turns me off.

We will consider this in the future.
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Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:54
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Hi Mark

I am sorry if this is all to long.
I just try my best to explain things.
Maybe I try some times too hard.

best

Paul
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Sunday, 31 January 2016 23:55
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Hi Mark

duly noted

best

Paul
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Monday, 01 February 2016 14:51
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Thanks for understanding Paul
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Monday, 01 February 2016 16:02
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