By ron7 on Thursday, 19 March 2015
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My apologies for posting again. Fact is I have been using one or two other php social net scripts and I am impressed by EasySocial, and do consider a purchase. Some "ifs and buts" are there though. Some stuffs which I have been using in other scripts are missing in EasySocial and some stuffs missing there are missing here also in EasySocial. Nothing "fancy" but just useful things, and presence of logic in presentation is what I need.


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Creating an Album (or photos there) has NO privacy options!! The Privacy options as in the status ( story) box should be present everywhere - Photos, Events, Notes
How can I see a collection of my OWN Likes, when I visit a Friends Profile, her Likes? (Buddypress, Elgg has this)
Groups show 'All, Feature, My, Invited' BUT does not show 'Groups I own/manage' (Others have this)
RSS feeds to show Titles ( or Titles + Excerpts) in sidebar if user want so (Buddypress, Elgg has this nicely - Elgg even "import" this as stream items so that you can locally Like and comment them)
Long names need truncation programmatically - see screenshots http://s2.postimg.org/sxnpmz2nt/image.gif
Create New Discussion / Create New Milestone / Create Announcement ODDLY changes the Group Cover photo
Event when created via Events > The Full Form has no privacy options BUT status box event submission has! Both should have
Image attachment in comments ( if admin wants only 1 image, show thumbnail in the stream as in Jomsocial)
Can each user have his own Blog
Can Blog posts be liked and commented from BOTH the stream and the blog post page itself? - see this forum discussion https://buddypress.org/support/topic/switched-from-easysocial-on-joomla-here-is-my-feedback/#post-236010
Any good CHAT solution (text chat will do) that obeys friend list and is not resource-hungry?

Important

How to show a map -of current location in Profile maybe as a sidebar widget? (Buddypress, Elgg has this)
If not owner of the Group, user cannot see Create Event from 'Sidebar Apps > Event' link BUT can see 'create event' from Group front page ( lack of logic - should see on clicking sidebar event link too)
In Member list user can click Add Friend on own name ( lack of logic)
Absurd date of births are accepted like 23 august 2015 ( lack of logic)
While in own Profile, Apps like "Notes" etc have NO Create New links ( lack of logic)
Friends can be listed into various lists as wished but Privacy options do not show these Lists
Screenshots of the following in Demo site
- how the lists look when there is 1k+ friends
- how 1k+ Likes are displayed in stream or elsewhere

Site member has no option to TURN OFF OR ON following - ideally there should be a turn on option like social nets do - some users may not like following/


Back-end

How to set some default "Filter by Apps" as wished by Admin
"Filter by App" does not maintain the Top filter "Me and Friend" "Everyone" etc (if you have difficulty in understanding this, please forget it)
How to re-order or hide stuffs in the EasySocial sidebar in Dashboard and Profile page
Can users delete own account and take away a backup of contents at that time? (Elgg has this)
Html output backup of the site, suppose when you decide to carry the site no more but just keep a static showcase
Is there any equivalent of "page" ( like Facebook) in Easysocial ?

Please note none are any criticism of this great product you are building - its just what I need and feel. Its an excellent product and I think it can benefit more if opened to community but maintaining any business model you want. It should continue for eternity.

Thanks a lot for your patience.
Thanks for the heads up on this.
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Saturday, 21 March 2015 17:15
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Hello ron7,

Thanks for your inquiry and I do apologize for the delay of this reply as your questions are pretty extensive and I will try to address them all below:

Creating an Album (or photos there) has NO privacy options!! The Privacy options as in the status ( story) box should be present everywhere - Photos, Events, Notes


Photo Privacy : By default, the photo privacy option should follow the privacy settings that was set either by the admin (in the backend) or by the profile owner (in the front end).


How can I see a collection of my OWN Likes, when I visit a Friends Profile, her Likes? (Buddypress, Elgg has this)


Sorry, but there are no option to view other user likes in one page yet.


Groups show 'All, Feature, My, Invited' BUT does not show 'Groups I own/manage' (Others have this)


For the group filter, currently the option is already in EasySocial's code, but it's not implemented yet. However, users are free to hack and edit the code to call this function.

RSS feeds to show Titles ( or Titles + Excerpts) in sidebar if user want so (Buddypress, Elgg has this nicely - Elgg even "import" this as stream items so that you can locally Like and comment them)


As for the RSS feature, I believe my colleague Yasser has already replied you at http://stackideas.com/forums/how-can-a-site-member-show-rss-feeds-in-the-side-bar-in-his-profile. In case you missed it, currently this feature is not available in EasySocial.

Long names need truncation programmatically - see screenshots http://s2.postimg.org/sxnpmz2nt/image.gif


For the group name's truncation, I believe that this is a very, very minor feature which doesn't really fall into the developer's consideration. Every time we create a feature or function, we will ask ourselves (and based on our experience) whether it is needed or not. None of us have actually came across a community that uses a group name which has more than 30 characters. However, if this is needed, we can and will implement it.

Create New Discussion / Create New Milestone / Create Announcement ODDLY changes the Group Cover photo


I am unable to replicate this on both our demo page and my localhost. Can you assist me by providing me with the steps to replicate this issue?

Event when created via Events > The Full Form has no privacy options BUT status box event submission has! Both should have


The privacy setting in the status box doesn't applied to Quick Event creation. This is due to the fact that Events has it's own unique privacy setting (open event, closed event etc).

Image attachment in comments ( if admin wants only 1 image, show thumbnail in the stream)


Image attachment in comment is not available in EasySocial in the first place. Is there anything that I've missed?

Can each user have his own Blog


Nope. To blog, you would have to get EasyBlog. More info on EasyBlog here.

Can Blog posts be liked and commented from BOTH the stream and the blog post page itself? - see this forum discussion https://buddypress.org/support/topic/switched-from-easysocial-on-joomla-here-is-my-feedback/#post-236010


No, posts and likes are only on the 'stream item' and not on the blog post itself.

Any good CHAT solution (text chat will do) that obeys friend list and is not resource-hungry?


I'm not sure on your definition of "resource-hungry", but I believe that CometChat is one good chat solution that you can use on EasySocial.
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Friday, 20 March 2015 02:07
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Please do not apologize It is enough for me that you have taken the time to response. I thought you were pushing in one or two important features overnight

Is everything feature-frozen? Many scripts will push in small improvements or iterations weekly or daily if not in the code then as extensions/plugins. 2 issues I think you need to address seriously. If you are heavily satisfied with your sales then its okay. But otherwise, many users who will be looking at you, wanting to come to you from other scripts, will be disappointed by the fact that

No, posts and likes are only on the 'stream item' and not on the blog post itself.


1) you lack something like Wordpress or Drupal MUltiuser blog or even blogging like Elgg, but what is needed is mainly two way commenting and Liking. I understand that you may not be able to implement it overnight or may be you do not see the logic and necessity behind it. Okay. But what about

Sorry, but there are no option to view other user likes in one page yet.


2) If I am not able to see back my own Likes, if I am unable to come to see my Likes afterwards what is the point in Liking then? Imagine if you were able to bookmark pages in your browser but no way to retrieve them later! I understand other "features" are either not felt necessary by you OR are way too difficult to implement right now BUT why not implement this right now ? I mean is it so difficult to have an extension that can show a Likes filter right now - my own Likes and my friend's Likes (when I visit that Friend's profile)

Other issues:

Photo Privacy : By default, the photo privacy option should follow the privacy settings that was set either by the admin (in the backend) or by the profile owner


That is okay, what If I need to change the privacy of Album ABC to "Only me" while keeping other Albums "For All"
Everywhere, in all social scripts at the time of creating a new album you are able to choose privacy


The privacy setting in the status box doesn't applied to Quick Event creation. This is due to the fact that Events has it's own unique privacy setting (open event, closed event etc).


Yes it applies. See the picture please - http://s22.postimg.org/fs7upuwe9/event.png . Whether an Event is closed or open, I can apply privacy settings via the Quick Form but not the Full form. Everywhere on the net or in social scripts an Event can be closed or open and privacy settings can be applied too. The 'open/close' and 'privacy' are two different elements. Presence of one does not mean the other is not applicable. Example: An event is closed to any attendee but still visible to my "custom" members


I am unable to replicate this on both our demo page and my localhost. Can you assist me by providing me with the steps to replicate this issue?


See this http://s22.postimg.org/4h571hpj5/cover.png
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Login as Darius in the demo site - then go to his Group 'Rock the Music' - see the cover or top of the page - now click create New Discussion - see how the Cover or the top of the page unnecessarily changes appearance - see the picture link above -
This does not happen only in Group but inconsistently throughout the site
for example when you see an alert like this
""You are trying to view or edit a restricted photo.
Sorry, but you do not have the permission to view or edit this photo"". - This changes the Profile Cover photo or Profile Top appearance.


Image attachment in comment is not available in EasySocial in the first place. Is there anything that I've missed?


This is easily available in Jomsocial. (See Jomsocial demo) As well as other non-Joomla scripts. Just one image (sqaure or rect. thumb per comment, not more than one or else it "pollutes" the stream) Shouldn't you think this is an urgent need?


So all said and done, I think you can quickly push in some integration in appearance and presentation logic. And if nothing else, please implement a Likes tab or Likes filter - so that I can see my Likes and your Likes too. It need not wait till the next version - it can be an App or Extension right now
The stuffs I have said are not really something exotic or fancy but are useful things being much in use by members of other sites or scripts. Do not the lead developers think in the same line and want to do rapid, fast and sustained development? I have no idea. But will be glad to know. Thanks and best regards.
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Friday, 20 March 2015 09:31
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Hello Ron7,

Thanks for the positive input. I believe what you are trying to achieve here is basically the same as what we all want to achieve. It require one small step for greater future. I believe what we did for the past few years will continue to grow up with the help of everyone especially our valuable customer

With that being said, we will take all of your input and turn it into something positive and hopefully we will able to achieve it. Regarding on your request to implement the likes tab and likes filter, I will sent the request to our development team and hopefully their hand is not too full yet with the current development task. I hope you understand.

Thanks for the great input that you gave and have a nice day to you
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Friday, 20 March 2015 22:00
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Hi Ezrul Fazwan

Thanks a lot for your kind response. Its great to know you will pass on the info to the Dev Team. Do some of them also participate in answers here ?
Just my last request - please pass on these additional small request to the Team:

1) Let user choose Album privacy at the time of creating album - this is the accepted norm everywhere ( any script or real net) so that different albums can be meant for different folks - eg. friends, only me, public etc
2) Event Creation short or quick form should hide privacy options (as it is meaningless for Events) - please see / pass on the attached picture -
http://s18.postimg.org/59apw1q61/event2.png

Thanks a lot. Looking forward for this minor but missing iterations asap. Best wishes.
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Saturday, 21 March 2015 09:24
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