By Uros_Tilen_DEV on Friday, 27 January 2017
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Hi!

I think I have a small problem. I am testing out the page function of the EasySocial component and it works good, but there is still a "big" problem. After a user liked a page he will not get any updated on the newsfeed...? Why is this so? Am I missing something? But the same user will get the notification as seen in the picture:



Thank you!
Hello,

I am not entirely sure if I understand you here. After liking the page, if the page admin or any user posts an update on the page, you should also receive a notification. Are you saying that you are not getting those notifications?
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Friday, 27 January 2017 18:28
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I will get the notification, but the "update" is not visible in my news feed...
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Friday, 27 January 2017 19:56
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Hello Tilen,

I see. Can you provide us your backend and FTP access so that we can troubleshoot this issue? I can't replicate this in my local.
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Saturday, 28 January 2017 23:49
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Hi Nik! Thank you for your help. I am just wondering how to send you the FTP and admin details private? I don't want everybody to see it

p.s.: We had to change the username and email on your site so that me and my partner can both have a look at it
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Monday, 30 January 2017 17:15
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Hello,

I am really sorry for the delay of this reply as it is actually a public day off for us here. You can do so by editing your first post above and including the site as well as the ftp access.

You can also do this just once by adding your site access at https://stackideas.com/dashboard/site
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Tuesday, 31 January 2017 00:16
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I added the needed information in the first post. Thank you!
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Thursday, 02 February 2017 01:02
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Hello,

I am sorry but I am a bit lost here. The 'update in the news feed', did you mean the update that state the user has liked a page? Because based on your first statement here: "After a user liked a page he will not get any updated on the newsfeed..". I have liked a page and the update is correctly displayed: http://take.ms/qmNe5 .

If my interpretation is wrong, do let us know how to replicate your issue.
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Thursday, 02 February 2017 10:42
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Hi!

Yes, you are able to see that a user liked a page. But after that for example the administrator of the liked page makes a new post (example: How to code...?) and I am not able to see his post in my news feed. Like Facebook - if you like a page you will automatically receive updated of the liked pages - news feed.
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Thursday, 02 February 2017 19:19
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I am sorry for the delay of this reply,

To be honestly, I am not quite sure i understand you here, perhaps you can take a look of my attached screenshot below.

For some reason, I was unable to create new PAGE from your website, this is what I hitting that error :

Bad Gateway

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


However, this is what i tested from my locally :
1. User A - Created a new PAGE
2. User B - LIKED this PAGE
3. System will generate a stream who LIKED this PAGE
4. System will notified this PAGE owner who LIKED his PAGE
5. If User B submit a new post in his PAGE, PAGE owner will get notified
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Friday, 03 February 2017 18:35
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Hi!

I really don't know what the problem regarding the access to our site / creation of a Page is. Will definitely have a look. I think that we don't understand each other...

1. User A created a PAGE A
2. User B liked the PAGE A created by user A
3. User A posts something on his page or as the page (for example: How to code....?)
4. User B doesn't see this post in his Newsfeed

The best to understand is to check Facebook - if you like a Page there you automatically receive all the updates from the page in your Newsfeed.

Do we understand each other now?

Thank you, you are really great!
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Saturday, 04 February 2017 01:12
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Thanks for took your time to explained it again.

May i know which part of "Newsfeed" you referring?

Is it you referring the Easysocial dashboard (screenshot : https://www.screencast.com/t/hHuloo70E6) or PAGE timeline (screenshot : https://www.screencast.com/t/fWlOHWwuxJA)?

I've just tested on your site, it seems both user also can see the newsfeed, you can check my video here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8clgc1pryxp7q3/Screencast%202017-02-04.mp4?dl=0

If I still getting wrong of your meaning, perhaps you can record a video to show us so we can better to understand regarding this issue.

By the way, I also tested on Facebook PAGE but for some reason I didn't get the notification if someone post something on the PAGE.

1. User A created a PAGE A
2. User B liked the PAGE A created by user A
3. User A posts something on his page or as the page (for example: How to code....?)
4. User B doesn't get notify and User B can able to see the newfeed on the PAGE.

I suspect need to set some of the setting from the Facebook page in order to get those new feed notification.
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Saturday, 04 February 2017 22:32
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Hello,

Thank you for answer. This attachment which you attached are ok, this works.. It is not problem what you post on page but someone X... so.. if I go again step by step:

1. UserA cretae PageA
2. UserB like PageA
3. UserA or UserX something posting on PageA
4. UserB dont get notification of liked page (PageA) - Why?

Dont forget... UserB is not friend or follower of UserA or UserX.... UserB just like PageA
So... I think that UserB must get notifications on his profile from his liked Pages... isnt? And sure... in News feed "Me&Friends" or "Following" (attachment "Testiranje2").... not in news feed "Everyone" !!

Can you again like page "Testiranje"... I something post on this page (user "u3") - write "TEST POSTING" , and you can see if you get this post on your profile. And.. dont forget.. not in news feed "Everyone".

Thank you
Best regards
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Sunday, 05 February 2017 05:44
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Thanks, this time I can fully understand what you described at above.

Yes, that was default behaviour only Page owner can get the notification when someone post any new feed into the PAGE is because PAGE is a little different with other.

When follower post something in the PAGE, it shouldn't notify to all the follower, if not they will feel those new notification is annoying if the PAGE is very active + every single hour follower also share something in the PAGE.

That why Facebook PAGE end up allow user to configure those notification from their user, you can take a look of my attached screenshot below, even I enabled that setting to get notify when the PAGE posts something new, I still can't receive the notification immediately as I tried just now.

If you would like to achieve this, you have to modify the Easysocial core file.

By the way, your ideas is sound good, perhaps you can start a new thread (select "Easysocial - feature request" category) for request regarding this feature? If a lot of user request this, our developer will definitely consider implement this in the future version.
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Monday, 06 February 2017 15:50
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Hi!

First of all I would like to thank you for your help and all the replies but I still think that we don't understand each other correct
You wrote: "When follower post something in the PAGE, it shouldn't notify to all the follower, if not they will feel those new notification is annoying if the PAGE is very active + every single hour follower also share something in the PAGE." I totally understand the logic behind this and this is something we don't see as an issue. The main thing we would like to have is that WHEN THE OWNER OF THE PAGE shares something new in their PAGE that this NEW POST is also displayed in the news feed.
Do you know what I mean?

Thank you!
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Tuesday, 07 February 2017 16:35
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I am sorry for the delay of this reply,

You wrote: "When follower post something in the PAGE, it shouldn't notify to all the follower, if not they will feel those new notification is annoying if the PAGE is very active + every single hour follower also share something in the PAGE." I totally understand the logic behind this and this is something we don't see as an issue. The main thing we would like to have is that WHEN THE OWNER OF THE PAGE shares something new in their PAGE that this NEW POST is also displayed in the news feed.
Do you know what I mean?

Okay, i read again from your previous reply, like above example you given, are you mean this "TEST POSTING" stream (screenshot : http://take.ms/N6ZgU ) shouldn't appear on "Me & friend" filter because that userB is not friend or follower of UserA or UserX.... UserB just like PageA?

If yes, it seems like that is a bug, it shouldn't show that stream on "Me & friend" filter, it should show on the everyone filter.
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Thursday, 09 February 2017 18:43
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Hi,

Yes, maybe here is little mistake - notifications must not be on "Me & friend" if I just Like the Page. Also must not be JUST on "Everyone" because "Everyone" is not a filter - here are all posts from all community... am I right? I think notifications from liked pages must be on "Following" but there is problem because you dont have Follow on Pages - like on Facebook.
Somewhere (I dont know if on Demo or not) I see under "News Feed" "Custom filter 1" - maybe here we can set or add some new filters - for example than we can set filter "Liked Pages" and here we have notifications from liked pages?

Or - if I ask you - if you click Like on Page - where you can see notifications from this Page on your News Feed except "Everyone" - because on Everyone is a looooot of notifications?

Best regards
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Thursday, 09 February 2017 20:25
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Hi,

You dont answer on my last reply yet... or you are still testing?

Best regards
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Saturday, 11 February 2017 18:48
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I am sorry for the delay of this reply,

Or - if I ask you - if you click Like on Page - where you can see notifications from this Page on your News Feed except "Everyone" - because on Everyone is a looooot of notifications?

I think that is quite confusing when you said 'notification' word is because for us 'notification' mean is when someone comment on your stream, you will get notified like receive an email or system notification (screenshot : http://take.ms/0jxeQ ), but based on what I understand your previous response, yours "notification" mean is actually mention that whether that is new feed display (screenshot : http://take.ms/mXkIG ) on the Easysocial dashboard.

Yes, maybe here is little mistake - notifications must not be on "Me & friend" if I just Like the Page. Also must not be JUST on "Everyone" because "Everyone" is not a filter - here are all posts from all community... am I right?

Nope, let me explain regarding this :

Everyone filter : This filter will show all the stream which under community but it will depend on the user privacy whether their feed can show to public, registered user, friend to friend or only me, those group/event/page also same with this.

Me & Friend filter : This filter only show those stream item you and your friends.

Following : This filter only show those stream who you followed instead of PAGE liked.

By the way, currently that was not possible to set a custom filter for retrieve those PAGE liked feed.
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Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:01
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Hi,

Or - if I ask you - if you click Like on Page - where you can see notifications from this Page on your News Feed except "Everyone" - because on Everyone is a looooot of notifications?

I think that is quite confusing when you said 'notification'


Yes you are right I explain wrong - notification is something different but you are right - with this I mean new feed.


I understand filters in news feed - I know what some means and shows (Everyone, Me&Friends, Following)...

Following : This filter only show those stream who you followed instead of PAGE liked.


Yes this is problem...
Here I am a little confused because:
a) if you on some Page click to look likes there is showen as followers of page (attachment 1)
b) what is than advantage if you click Like on page? Where on my Profile news feed are feeds of my liked pages? Nowhere?

By the way, currently that was not possible to set a custom filter for retrieve those PAGE liked feed.


I found what I say last time - somewhere under News feed I see custom filter (attachment 2) - what is this and where it can be set?

Best regards
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Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:40
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Yes this is problem...
Here I am a little confused because:
a) if you on some Page click to look likes there is showen as followers of page (attachment 1)
b) what is than advantage if you click Like on page? Where on my Profile news feed are feeds of my liked pages? Nowhere?

If you click "Follower" filter from the PAGE (screenshot : http://take.ms/oNlgW ), it suppose to show who LIKED this PAGE.
If you click on "Following" filter from the DASHBOARD (screenshot : http://take.ms/I2xgs ), it suppose to show those feed who you followed (screenshot : http://take.ms/vkRqG ).

The advantage when you LIKED on a PAGE, you will get notified when the PAGE owner share/update something on the PAGE, screenshot : http://take.ms/gwKIL || http://take.ms/i55xs

For example : If one of the new restaurant PAGE receive a lots of people to follow/LIKED, when this PAGE update got the promotion on this coming Valentine day, so all the follower or who LIKED this PAGE, they will get notified so those follower will know the latest promotion details on time.

I found what I say last time - somewhere under News feed I see custom filter (attachment 2) - what is this and where it can be set?

It depend on which view you would like to create the custom filter :
User dashboard view - http://take.ms/cTEK2
- This can allow every login user

PAGE view - http://take.ms/cVt9Y
- This one only available for PAGE owner
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Monday, 13 February 2017 15:37
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Hi again,

Thanks for answer. it helps I think now better understand

If you click "Follower" filter from the PAGE (screenshot : http://take.ms/oNlgW ), it suppose to show who LIKED this PAGE.
If you click on "Following" filter from the DASHBOARD (screenshot : http://take.ms/I2xgs ), it suppose to show those feed who you followed (screenshot : http://take.ms/vkRqG ).

This where you click Follower or Following.. this I know before how works - this is not problem...

The advantage when you LIKED on a PAGE, you will get notified when the PAGE owner share/update something on the PAGE, screenshot : http://take.ms/gwKIL || http://take.ms/i55xs

This is very helping to understand... So if you just Like page you get notification if owner or admin of page something post on your Liked page.
Problem here is because you cant get this posts under news feed Following (except you follow owner or admin of page) - this is it what I am looking for.
I think it will be very good if you can choose that you also follow page but you dont have this yet
I think will be fine if I put this under New request?
(Facebook pages work like this - like and/or follow)
So you will get all post from owner / admin of Page under Following (or maybe better) that will be under News feed possibility to choose Following Pages (attachment User news feed)

Also... maybe another New request - that under Page Timeline you create:
- Timeline from all (all posts)
- Timeline from admins (post from owner and admins)
(attachment Page timeline)
What do you think?

PAGE view - http://take.ms/cVt9Y
- This one only available for PAGE owner

This is not true... I think (when I little testes) that on Page you can create your own filter, for example:
- on PageA UserA create filter #testA (which is visible for UserA when he is on PageA)
- on PageA UserB create filter #testB (which is visible for UserB when he is on PageA)
- on PageA UserC create filter #testC (which is visible for UserC when he is on PageA)
..isnt like this..?

Best regards
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Tuesday, 14 February 2017 07:01
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Hey there,

Thanks for getting back to us.

This is not true... I think (when I little testes) that on Page you can create your own filter, for example:
- on PageA UserA create filter #testA (which is visible for UserA when he is on PageA)
- on PageA UserB create filter #testB (which is visible for UserB when he is on PageA)
- on PageA UserC create filter #testC (which is visible for UserC when he is on PageA)
..isnt like this..?

It seems like I tested with the non-follower from that PAGE.
Yes, you are correctly, that custom filter available for every follower and when the userA created that filter, that filter only appear on his user account, other user will not see it.

This is very helping to understand... So if you just Like page you get notification if owner or admin of page something post on your Liked page.
Problem here is because you cant get this posts under news feed Following (except you follow owner or admin of page) - this is it what I am looking for.
I think it will be very good if you can choose that you also follow page but you dont have this yet
I think will be fine if I put this under New request?
(Facebook pages work like this - like and/or follow)
So you will get all post from owner / admin of Page under Following (or maybe better) that will be under News feed possibility to choose Following Pages (attachment User news feed)

Also... maybe another New request - that under Page Timeline you create:
- Timeline from all (all posts)
- Timeline from admins (post from owner and admins)
(attachment Page timeline)
What do you think?

Yes, that is Good suggestion, perhaps you can start a new thread (select "Easysocial - feature request" category) for request regarding this feature above? If a lot of user request this, our developer will definitely consider implement this in the future version.
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Tuesday, 14 February 2017 18:43
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Hi,

Thank you. Yes, I will open New request because I think this is very good and usefully feature.
Thanks for explanation.

Best regards
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Tuesday, 14 February 2017 19:15
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Thank you Uros
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Tuesday, 14 February 2017 22:51
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