By gjay on Monday, 21 May 2018
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Hello. The GDPR deadline is almost upon us, but I don't really see many functions in easysocial that GDPR requires.
Will there be a new version release in time for the deadline?
If not.. would anyone know of any extentions that would work for easysocial?
Examples such profile changes by the user need to be logged etc
We will try our best to get it out before the dateline.
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Monday, 21 May 2018 09:50
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There are several Joomla extensions out there now that perfectly able to handle this (both the user logging and also export for authorities as well as the GDPR compliant cookie acceptance).

What would be great to see built in EasySocial is:
a mandatory new Privacy Policy acceptance option both for existing and future registered members before they would be able to see anything from the requested/actual page (only shown until their answer is saved in the database and also displayed in the given user profile at least for admins); without modals if possible.

The above also achievable with other extensions already but it would be great to have this user consent within EasySocial.
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Monday, 21 May 2018 10:20
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FYKI.: xenForo handled the "Right to erasure" simply and cleverly
(upon deletion request not removing the user content but giving the option to rename/anonymize the user)
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Monday, 21 May 2018 10:26
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Hey Jozsef,

EasySocial already supports the account deletion part in which it is accordance with the specifications of the GDPR. Account download is currently being developed and we are including it into EasySocial 2.2

As for the privacy / cookies consent, I do not think it is ideal for EasySocial to be developing this. Ideally, you should use a 3rd party plugin that renders such consents. This way, you have a plugin that is used throughout the site for privacy acceptance (be it cookies or anything else)

If you have every extension on your site requiring the user to accept the privacy on every single extension on your site, it's not going to be a good experience for your users.
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Monday, 21 May 2018 10:56
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Dear Mark,

I'm entirely on the same page with you
(I never mentioned cookie consent as an EasySocial feature, and I haven't started this topic).
I solely mentioned xenForo's "Right to erasure" compliance because I liked their implementation.

As I indicated EasySocial already can be made compliant as it is.

As for the mandatory Privacy Policy acceptance in case of intranets (for which we're using this and our other EasySocial licenses on other accounts here) not many other components are used.

These intra/extranets are in "lockdown mode" by ES, and we need to deal and save old and new users consent for Privacy Policies once and before they enter (I'm sure we're not alone with this)...obviously it can be done with almost anything quickly (a form component, a newsletter component or even ES custom fields), but a dedicated GDPR section for ES wouldn't be such a bad thing...
As in case of the now released WordPress and the upcoming J! 3.9/3.10 have at its core...albeit when it comes to J! I've tested the current dev/Privacy branch aka. "Privacy Framework repository"...there are so many sounder implementations; as always Joomla seriously in need of more developers....maybe ES can interact with J!'s implementation in the future if J! can grant more resources towards their Privacy Framework)

The US Senate now also works on a similar approach (although they nowhere near yet..and it's not in their best interest anyway). Each day there'll be fewer countries to where Facebook can transfer 1.5 billion user accounts repeatedly.
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Monday, 21 May 2018 12:03
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Hi,

I am just testing https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html which seems pretty comprehensive. However it doesn't seem to have Payplans as one of their integration options. EasySocial, EasyBlog, EasyDiscuss and Komento are included.

I am just testing on a weeks trial in the hope the one will be available from stackideas soon.

Kind regards
Mel
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Monday, 21 May 2018 19:26
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !
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Monday, 21 May 2018 22:08
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !


Hi HMED, try the one I posted earlier:
https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html

It is not complete but covers most things. You can download the full version on a 7 day trial to see if it suits your needs.

I also used free legal documents for cookie, privacy and terms which you can find for your country (you can pay £10 per form if you prefer not to have the linkback
Mel
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Monday, 21 May 2018 22:20
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !


Hi HMED, try the one I posted earlier:
https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html

It is not complete but covers most things. You can download the full version on a 7 day trial to see if it suits your needs.

I also used free legal documents for cookie, privacy and terms which you can find for your country (you can pay £10 per form if you prefer not to have the linkback


thanks !
can you share the link for legal document please ?
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Monday, 21 May 2018 22:46
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Hey Jozsef,

Yep, you are right. What we are implementing in EasySocial 2.2 right now is mainly data export where user's would be able to export the data that they have. This is just part of the GDPR.

I am not sure about the part of hiding contents before user's acceptance, is this a mandatory option imposed by GDPR?
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Monday, 21 May 2018 22:46
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Hi Hmed,

I am using https://seqlegal.com

But if you google it, there are loads of free providers - should these not be sufficient

Hope that helps
Mel
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Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:45
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There's another cool service from https://www.iubenda.com/ , it's on a freemium model though.
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Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:25
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Hi Mark,

I have gone with the paid version of GDPR from store extensions. Will this run alongside all the new things added in EasySocial or should it now be switched off?
Mel
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Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:42
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I have just deleted my comment as answered my own question
Mel
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Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:45
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Hi everybody,

Some informations, I would like share with you.

I downloaded GDPR extension from https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html only for testing and it's not so bad.

For more information about new rules, I followed this link (interesting if you need some translation) https://cookie-script.com/cookie-policy-templates/en.html

Anf after that, I found out this link http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm#section_2 from European Commission website and there are some explanations and toolkits.

For example about Cookie consent, you could download Cookie consent kit to get some standard template to create your own cookie notice page.
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Friday, 25 May 2018 00:05
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Does anyone know what cookies joomla, easysocial and stackideas templates use and what their purposes are?
I believe we need to list these in the cookie policies?

Maybe we can make a list for other extentsions too, such as kunena for those of us that use them. I would be good to make a cut and paste policy so that people can remove the addons they don't use and keep the ones they do use =)
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Friday, 25 May 2018 06:12
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EG. When I log into easysocial I get at least 2 cookies with random names such as d64004c94930e6c45e74bed1d3c38dD.
How do we figure out what these do? I looked in the php database and find no reference to them
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Friday, 25 May 2018 08:18
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+1 cookies
joy
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Friday, 25 May 2018 11:03
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EasySocial does not generate any cookies. If you have embedded media on the stream, chances are those rich media are generating cookies.

Apat from that, Joomla also generates 2 cookies (if I recall correctly), one of it is for the user's session state and the other is for the session itself.
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Friday, 25 May 2018 11:21
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EasySocial does not generate any cookies. If you have embedded media on the stream, chances are those rich media are generating cookies.

Apat from that, Joomla also generates 2 cookies (if I recall correctly), one of it is for the user's session state and the other is for the session itself.


Yep, I see them two cookies... I don't see any way to identify what each does. The names are random (perhaps hexadecimal).. hmm this is going to be a problem.
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Friday, 25 May 2018 11:29
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Does the stream contain any rich media embeds like videos etc? I would think these providers like Youtube, Vimeo etc would need to be updated request for the necessary consent. If they do not do it, it's going to be really tricky because you never know what your users are going to share.

This is also a problem that Facebook is facing
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Friday, 25 May 2018 12:33
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Hi no, the two random cookies appear to be when I log in, I don't think there is anything, at least not on the stream. I'm sure they are joomla related, but I can't quite work it out =)
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 02:47
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !


Hi HMED, try the one I posted earlier:
https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html

It is not complete but covers most things. You can download the full version on a 7 day trial to see if it suits your needs.

I also used free legal documents for cookie, privacy and terms which you can find for your country (you can pay £10 per form if you prefer not to have the linkback

I could only get this to work partly. It places a bar at the bottom of the website, I can fill the cookies policy in the config in and it shows. on the front end, But the privacy policy displays a white blank box
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 09:44
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !


Hi HMED, try the one I posted earlier:
https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html

It is not complete but covers most things. You can download the full version on a 7 day trial to see if it suits your needs.

I also used free legal documents for cookie, privacy and terms which you can find for your country (you can pay £10 per form if you prefer not to have the linkback

I could only get this to work partly. It places a bar at the bottom of the website, I can fill the cookies policy in the config in and it shows. on the front end, But the privacy policy displays a white blank box
. I can't say I recommend this addon right now...
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 09:45
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !


Hi HMED, try the one I posted earlier:
https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html

It is not complete but covers most things. You can download the full version on a 7 day trial to see if it suits your needs.

I also used free legal documents for cookie, privacy and terms which you can find for your country (you can pay £10 per form if you prefer not to have the linkback

I could only get this to work partly. It places a bar at the bottom of the website, I can fill the cookies policy in the config in and it shows. on the front end, But the privacy policy displays a white blank box
. I can't say I recommend this addon right now...


Well, it's a place to discuss products of Stackideas.
But I'm using the mentioned plugin over 40 J! installations, and it works like a charm.
Multilingual example:
intersearch.hu
Example of ALL cookies blocked preemptively before the visitor agrees:
intersearch.org

In case you have troubles with it; it's likely you have other problems on your site (or you haven't checked all the settings).
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:06
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hello,

any 3rd extensions can you advise please ?
25 May is very near !


Hi HMED, try the one I posted earlier:
https://storejextensions.org/extensions/gdpr.html

It is not complete but covers most things. You can download the full version on a 7 day trial to see if it suits your needs.

I also used free legal documents for cookie, privacy and terms which you can find for your country (you can pay £10 per form if you prefer not to have the linkback

I could only get this to work partly. It places a bar at the bottom of the website, I can fill the cookies policy in the config in and it shows. on the front end, But the privacy policy displays a white blank box
. I can't say I recommend this addon right now...


Well, it's a place to discuss products of Stackideas.
But I'm using the mentioned plugin over 40 J! installations, and it works like a charm.
Multilingual example:
intersearch.hu
Example of ALL cookies blocked preemptively before the visitor agrees:
intersearch.org

In case you have troubles with it; it's likely you have other problems on your site (or you haven't checked all the settings).


True, it is stack ideas, but since they don't have this in the product and someone else mentioned it here.. I think it could be a good place to discuss for reasons that others may also be wanting to integrate this into easysocial =)
Your websites look amazing!
I emailed the developer about this. It is weird how it can show in one, but not the other =)
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:20
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Hi no, the two random cookies appear to be when I log in, I don't think there is anything, at least not on the stream. I'm sure they are joomla related, but I can't quite work it out =)

Yep, when you login to Joomla, 2 cookies are created by Joomla to store your session id. I can't remember what the other one is for, I think it has something to do with the login states.

Neither of our product uses any cookies by the way. We only store data on the session which Joomla associates with the cookie as it stores the session id.
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 12:58
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You need to post the privacy policy in 2 places. The first goes under cookie section the 2nd under privacy policy. Make sure too you set it to use content - ulness ypu are using a url
Mel
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Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:06
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Thanks for sharing Mel
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Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:01
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