By Sean Carney on Saturday, 01 October 2016
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Currently we only have one blogger at DrCarney.com which is Dr. Carney.

We want to allow members to blog as well. But, we need to keep those blogs separate. I know that I can easily create a blog menu item for only the Dr. Carney blogs. What I am wondering is if there is a way to create a blog item that would include all blogs by all members but would not include the Dr. Carney blogs?

Thanks for any pointers you can give me. I have not figured out a way yet.

We have not yet added the extra bloggers but intend to soon.

Sean Carney
We don't necessarily have an "exclusion" settings on the menu BUT what you could do is:

1. Create a menu item that points to the All authors layout
2. Go to Settings > Authors and enter the id that you would like to exclude

Cheers!
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Saturday, 01 October 2016 02:12
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I have not quite found the solution. Thanks for pointing it out though.

I figure you mean to create the All Bloggers menu item and then somehow in the settings of that menu item enter the ID of the user I want to exclude from that menu item? Where would I enter that user id.

I have a menu item called Bloggers now that displays all authors. But, I have not found a field that seems like I could put in a users ID and have them be excluded from that view?

I also thought maybe you were referring to the EasyBlog component Settings - Authors but I imagine that is not what you are referring to because I don't want to exclude a user from the site. Basically I want to create menus with blogs.

1) Dr. Carney Blogs (It is her site)
2) Member Blogs (All site members except for her)

any additional instructions will be appreciated.

Sean
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Saturday, 01 October 2016 02:55
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Hey Sean,

I am really sorry for the delay of this reply as it is a weekend for us here.

Currently we do not have this exclude user setting from the "Show All Author" menu type item at this point of time, can you try download my attached file and replace into these following file and see how it goes?

JoomlaFolder\components\com_easyblog\views\blogger\view.html.php
JoomlaFolder\components\com_easyblog\views\blogger\tmpl\default.xml


Note : Make sure you have backup your original file before you replace.
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Saturday, 01 October 2016 12:41
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So you can set which blogger ID you would like to exclude it from the "Show All Author" menu type item.
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Saturday, 01 October 2016 12:41
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Is the blogger ID different from the Joomla User ID?

I found that you added an "Exclude User ID" field and I put in the field for Dr. Carney. I did this on our page at http://www.drcarney.com/blog/bloggers

It did not appear to remove her. Her ID is 813.

However, I realize that I did not describe enough what I am trying to do so maybe you might have a better solution for me.

Basically we are about to do a redesign and what we want is to have two "Frontpage" views. One would be Dr. Carney Blog and the other would be Member Blogs.

So, we want both to have the nice blog layouts that show all the recent blogs. But, one would be ONLY the blogs written by Dr. Carney and the other would be ALL the other blogs that are written by our members.

Do you think this is something that it might make sense to make available?

Thank you, Sean Carney
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Tuesday, 04 October 2016 01:09
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hey Sean,


Is the blogger ID different from the Joomla User ID?

Actually that is same because Easyblog blogger id is associated with Joomla user id.

By the way, seems like I missed attached this file in my previous reply, after I applied into your site, it should work fine now, can you give it a check now?

/httpdocs/administrator/components/com_easyblog/models/blogger.php
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Tuesday, 04 October 2016 13:22
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Arlex,

That change did work for my All Bloggers page where I am now effectively leaving out the person I choose to exclude. Do you think this could exclude more than one person if I needed to by using a comma between ids?

Also, I am sure wondering if you all might consider adding this same functionality to the Frontpage Blog Layout. This is because I am really hoping to create two separate Frontpage Blog Layouts.

One would be for Dr. Carney who blogs pretty close to daily and the other would be for members of our community who blog much more sporadically.

Thank you for your help with this!

Sean
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Tuesday, 04 October 2016 21:39
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That change did work for my All Bloggers page where I am now effectively leaving out the person I choose to exclude. Do you think this could exclude more than one person if I needed to by using a comma between ids?

Yes, for example : 614,666,777,888

Also, I am sure wondering if you all might consider adding this same functionality to the Frontpage Blog Layout. This is because I am really hoping to create two separate Frontpage Blog Layouts.

One would be for Dr. Carney who blogs pretty close to daily and the other would be for members of our community who blog much more sporadically.

Based on what i see that was quite difficult to make this happen on frontpage blog layout, it would be best if you can submit a feature request regarding this in our voice page -> http://stackideas.com/voices/easyblog .
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Tuesday, 04 October 2016 23:31
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I submitted this just now as a feature request and I sure hope that it can be done. The reason is that our site currently has a blog for Dr. Carney in which she of course has to be responsible and liable for the content.

We added EasySocial with the idea that we would allow members to blog. But, those blogs have to be separate from the blogs on Dr. Carney because we have to disclaim their blogs in that she cannot be responsible or liable for anything that community members say.

Thank you for please considering this need and let me know if any other idea comes up. Otherwise, I have to not allow members to blog and yet that is one the main reasons that I decided to create the community here. :-)

Sean
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Wednesday, 05 October 2016 23:20
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Hey Sean,

What my suggestion is :

1. Create separate category user permission for this specific user (Dr. Carney)
For example : categoryA, categoryB, categoryC
Dr. Carney - can able to post in categoryA
User A - can able to post in categoryB but can't post in category A and C
User B - can able to post in categoryC but can't post in category A and B

2. You can create a single category menu item for this category A, mean this page only show all the Dr. Carney post only.

By the way, I am not really sure my ideas is it match with your current requirement, hope this will help.
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 00:16
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That might help. But, would it change my existing URLs? If those categories are appended to the URLs then it would mean I would have many hundreds of broken URLS.
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 02:53
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Hey Sean,

Yes, once you have created single category menu item, it will affected the existing blog entry URL

For example, I have do some testing on your site, if I created a single category menu item for this category "health" , the url will change it to :

https://www.xxx.com/blog/entry/eating-meat-raises-estrogen-at-cellular-levels
https://www.xxx.com/health/entry/eating-meat-raises-estrogen-at-cellular-levels

https://www.xxx.com/blog/blog-categories/health
https://www.xxx.com/health

But If I switch your routing option to use "Author" (you can refer on my attached screenshot below), it will not affect with your existing blog entry URL but it will affect the category page URL.
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 11:09
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Arlex,

Thank you for your comment on this one. I am not sure I understand 100% but I do know that we have to keep the URLs from all of Dr. Carney's blogs the same. ie. They can't change. Up until now she is the only blogger except for a few by me. But, she has many hundreds of blogs and those blogs are pointed to from other internet and social media sites. So, changing any of those urls would be really bad for us.

I am thinking that you are somehow suggesting that maybe I create a Category with a name like "Member Blog" and then somehow make sure that everybody who is wanting to blog on the site somehow has every blog that they create automatically assigned to the "Member Blog" category. Then I would create a menu item that is based on the Category "Member Blog". That menu item I am assuming would then displayed in ascending order so that the menu item would like like a frontpage blog view but would only show the people who are in the "Member Blogs" category. If this is so it might work. I am just concerned about how I would ensure that each of the users with permissions to Blog is in that category.

BTW, I am controlling the profiles now with EasySocial. Would it also be possible to somehow do this with a group? And, if so would I be able to put every user that is within a certain profile to be a member of that group?

I really need two views of our blogs.

1) Only Dr. Carney Blogs (whose current URLs would not change)

2) All other Member Blogs (These would be displayed together)
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 16:01
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Hey Sean,

BTW, I am controlling the profiles now with EasySocial. Would it also be possible to somehow do this with a group? And, if so would I be able to put every user that is within a certain profile to be a member of that group?

Yes, that was possible, actually Joomla user group and Easysocial profile type is almost the same thing, the different is Easysocial can create a new profile type included a few selected Joomla user group.

For example :
Dr. Carney assigned to `Dr-blogger` (Joomla user group)
From Easysocial, you can create a new profile type for only this Dr. Carney called it `Dr profile` and this Easysocial profile type you assign to `Dr-blogger` (Joomla user group)


I really need two views of our blogs.

1) Only Dr. Carney Blogs (whose current URLs would not change)

2) All other Member Blogs (These would be displayed together)

Can you show me which URL for this Dr. Carney blogs which you do not like to change? Is it only this URL can't be change and the rest okay? e.g. category page, blog entry page and etc.

May i know which existing categories only allow Dr.Carney to publish the blog?

And which categories only allow for member blog?
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 17:11
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Can you show me which URL for this Dr. Carney blogs which you do not like to change? Is it only this URL can't be change and the rest okay? e.g. category page, blog entry page and etc.


Answer: Currently we have only had two people blogging which is the user Linda Carney MD who has hundreds of blogs. There are also about a dozen created by Sean Carney but I will probably rewrite them slightly and make them also authored by Linda Carney MD. These hundreds of blogs are all using the same type of URLs:

They all start with https://www.drcarney.com/blog/entry/

example:
https://www.drcarney.com/blog/entry/eating-meat-raises-estrogen-at-cellular-levels

We need to create a view of all of Dr. Carney's blogs that would keep the same urls as above. We don't want to change the user experience except for maybe layout changes that might occur.


May i know which existing categories only allow Dr.Carney to publish the blog?


Answer: Currently there are NO categories that only allow Dr. Carney to publish the blog. We are discussing this because I thought it was a suggestion by you as to a way to solve our problem.


And which categories only allow for member blog?


Answer: Currently there are NO categories that only allow for member blogs. Again we are trying to figure out how to achieve what we need.

In a perfect world all of Doctor Carney's blogs will appear at https://www.drcarney.com/blog/entry/

We could then another URL for the member blogs which would be any blogs that are not created by Dr. Carney.

Our plan was to create two menu items using the EasyBlog Frontpage

We wanted one of them for Dr. Carney blogs at the urls https://www.drcarney.com/blog/entry/

And the others could be at another url. something like https://www.drcarney.com/memberblog/entry/ would be great.

I will try to replicate this site somewhere else and try to play with some of the ideas you shared to see if I can figure a way to keep all of Dr. Carney's url. I am still not sure this idea of using categories makes sense because I have no idea how I could assign all blogs that are NOT from Dr. Carney into that new category without there being a chance the users might remove that category.

Thank you for hanging in here with me on this one.

Sean Carney
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 22:10
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I am attaching a picture of our current blog which shows the url we use for the blogs which we would want to continue using for drcarney's blogs but not for the member blogs.
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 22:24
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We will want to keep the top of the blog saying something like

Linda Carney MD
Information and Resources Related to Health, Food and Science.

But, we would want to have something different at the top of the member blogs.

Something more like

Members Blogs
Blogs Related to Health, Food and Science by our Club Members
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Thursday, 06 October 2016 22:26
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Hey Sean,

We wanted one of them for Dr. Carney blogs at the urls https://www.drcarney.com/blog/entry/

And the others could be at another url. something like https://www.drcarney.com/memberblog/entry/ would be great.

Yes, this can be achieve it by setup following step :
- setup 2 single category menu item > call 'blog' and 'memberblog'
- all the existing blog category have to change to this category 'blog'

Since you attached one of the screenshot in your previous reply, I realised that my suggestion that single category page layout have a little different, it will show similar like this -> https://www.drcarney.com/blog/blog-categories/health

I am still not sure this idea of using categories makes sense because I have no idea how I could assign all blogs that are NOT from Dr. Carney into that new category without there being a chance the users might remove that category.

We will want to keep the top of the blog saying something like

Linda Carney MD
Information and Resources Related to Health, Food and Science.

But, we would want to have something different at the top of the member blogs.

Something more like

Members Blogs
Blogs Related to Health, Food and Science by our Club Members

Seems like this whole thing is consider as customisation and it will take more time to configure this and write some php script to update all the existing blog category to new category into your site, because this update thing will involved a lot of Easyblog table.

Having said that, if you require us to perform the customization for you, I would recommended you send a request for a quote from us at https://crm.stackideas.com . Our sales person would be glad to send you a quote for the customizations that you have requested.

After you done, we will start working on it.
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Friday, 07 October 2016 13:56
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OK. Thanks for the help. It look like I may just have to NOT allow ANY of our users besides Dr. Carney to blog. I think the idea you oultlined of moving the existing categories would work but going forward I am pretty sure that people would not understand why the categories were separate and would try to put things in those categories. That said, it is probably my best option so I will duplicate the site somewhere and play with it. Thank you for helping me to see the limitations.

Also, if we were to pay for this customization would it then become a part of the core product or would it be something that could be undone later on in a future version?

Thanks again, Sean
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Friday, 07 October 2016 20:19
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I just filled out the form to put in a request for a quote to add the ability to have more than one EasyBlog Frontpage Layout on a site and to add the ability to Filter by Bloggers with an option to Include or Exclude bloggers.

Hopefully this won't be too much work and be considered worthy of your consideration.

Thank you, Sean
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Saturday, 08 October 2016 05:58
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You're welcome Sean

If a lot of people request this similar thing and voice it, we will priority to consider implement this in the future.
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Saturday, 08 October 2016 09:58
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Thanks Arlex,

I just paid to have this added for us and for everybody else. Mark installed it on our system and it is working so it would not be available for everybody after the next version.
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Tuesday, 11 October 2016 05:23
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Hi there,

You are most welcome.

As a gentle reminder, kindly start a new thread if you have any other issue in the future so it will be easier for us to manage your inquiry. I will lock and mark this thread as resolved.
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Tuesday, 11 October 2016 09:47
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