Perhaps you should wait for our own subscription in EasySocial? I am hoping to be able to push this in 1.4 or 1.5

Mark wrote:

Perhaps you should wait for our own subscription in EasySocial? I am hoping to be able to push this in 1.4 or 1.5

Mark,

That is incredibly awesome news. I will definitely wait for the StackIdeas.com built solution for membership subscription.

Wow ... I will not use it, but I am sure it's a must have for a lot of people ... Continue to surprise us like that !

Mark,

The competition for Social community membership software is heavy but I have complete confidence in you and your team to come up with awesome solutions.

The WishList Membership Management software plugin for Wordpress is the most popular member management solution available for Wordpress and the feature set is very robust.

WishList - http://member.wishlistproducts.com/

FEATURES of WISHLIST that would be ideal to have for EasySocial.

Unlimited Membership Levels
Create “Silver”, “Gold”, “Platinum”, or any other “levels” you want! Charge more for higher levels of access – all within the same site.

Integrates With Your WordPress Site
Whether you’re building a new site or integrating with an existing WordPress site, installing WishList Member™ is a breeze. Just unzip the file, upload to your plugins folder and activate!

Flexible Membership Options
Create Free, Trial, or Paid membership levels — or any combination of the three.

Easy Member Management
View your members, their registration status, membership level, and much more. Easily upgrade members, move them to different levels, pause their membership, or delete them entirely.

Sequential Content Delivery
Graduate your members from one level to the next. For example, after 30 days, you can automatically upgrade members from a Free Trial to the “Silver” level.

Control Viewed Content
Just click the “Hide” button to protect exclusive content for members of a particular level. Create “modular” memberships and hide content from other levels.

Shopping Cart Integration
Seamlessly integrates with the most popular shopping cart systems, including PayPal, ClickBank, and many more. Plus, WishList Member™ now integrates with Cydec and Infusionsoft.

Multi-Level Access
Give your members access to multiple levels within your membership. For example, create a central download location with access granted to members of all levels.

Total Content Protection
Determine exactly what content your members can access! You can even drill down and grant access to specific posts, pages, categories and comments for each membership level. The possibilities are endless!

Secure RSS Feeds
Secure RSS feeds allow your members to view their membership material in their favorite RSS reader. But, it also gives you complete control – non-members can’t access the feed and if a person stops paying, their feed automatically stops working.

“Sneak Peak” Content Display
Protecting your content is extremely easy because everything after the “more” tag is automatically protected for members only. So an eye-grabbing post title, combined with a compelling opening paragraph is more than enough to wet the appetite of non-members!

Login Redirection
Set the first page your members see when they login. Even use a different redirection page for each membership level. It’s perfect for adding welcome messages, updates, news, and so much more.

Subscription Length Control
Control the length of time each member has access to your membership site. Now you can automatically expire a membership after 3 days, 7 days, or whatever time period you want.

Custom Error Pages
When a person tries to access content they don’t have permission to view, they will be taken to an error page. Now you can determine what that page will be. This gives you the chance to encourage them to register or upgrade to a different membership level.

Partial Content Display
What if you want the majority of a post to be displayed for non-members except for one sentence? With the Partial Content Display feature you can hide that “secret sentence” from others, but only show it to your members.

Much, Much More!
WishList Member™ has a wide variety of additional features that expand the way you can use WordPress to build and grow your membership site. Plus, we’re always adding more based on suggestions from our customers.

It will be a subscription system only for Easysocial ? , all Stackideas products ? , or joomla + all module + all plug in + all components ... ?

For example can we use it with other extension to restrict access in Sobi Pro for example ?

Thanks for the heads up on this guys We don't intend to compete with other 3rd party subscription systems but we do intend to create one for EasySocial

Did this ever result in the integration of a paid membership functionality? I don't see it in the functionality list.

Thanks!

jh

If you need something now go for Payplans, it is quite good. But yeah, if there is no rush then you might as well wait for Stackideas

Hi guys,

No post since late november... been busy will restart dev in Feb much more intensely. Mark this is a could news. However when you say wait for 1.4, what does that means as of framework ? I was about to start using payplans but this is quite a complex core to hack to get everything that I want. Will it be a separate app or it will be core of ES ?

Thanks and happy new year to everyone (yes... i'm supa late lol)

Alex

Thanks for the update. Can you give any kind of ballpark ETA. I can wait a bit, and would prefer your integrated solution but I can't wait an additional 6 or 12 months.

Love what you guys do.

Thanks!

jh

Hello Guys,

I can't give you an estimate right now but there has been a delay because of EasyBlog 5 and we're working on full speed right now to get EasyBlog 5 out!

@Mark

Got the priority on EB5. However its been almost 4 months the roadmap hasn't been updated so its hard to prioritize. Will this come on 1.4 or 1.5... just trying to find myself in the dark.

Alex

Hello Alex,

If time permits, it would be on 1.4, otherwise 1.5 As soon as EasyBlog 5 is out, we have lesser burden on our shoulder because EasyBlog 5 is taking most of our time currently.

Hi,

Yes definitely need a membership payment plan which possibility to associate with profile types and access levels.

Otherwise any have solutions available at the moment?

You could try the Payplans extension and see if it would work for you?

Payplans works like a sharm. I have integrated Easysocial & easydiscuss with payplans.

Just create some easysocial profiletypes with differtent limits. Let say for example that You want to create 3 profiletypes in easysocial:
- basic (free)
- silver ($ 20 a year)
- gold ($ 40 a year)

Create the basic profiletype. Save this one 2 extra times. Rename the other two to silver and gold. This way You make sure that the custom fields appear the same throughout the profiletypes! Important!

Do some finetuning at the profiletypes. For example, add a custom field which tells which profiletype it is, and offcourse, edit the access rights of each profiletype. For exampe; basic can have 10 pictures on their profile, silver 100, gold unlimited. Do this for all properties You want to have different between the profiletypes...Paying members can do more is the idea ;-)

I did found a bug in one of the limits of easysocial profiletypes. If You limit the amount of friends in a profiletype to lets say 3. Members cannot add friends anymore when they have 3 (or more) friends. When they try it on a userprofile, they see a warning that they have reached their limit. However, when they go to the memberlist, they can still invite people to become friends. There looks to be no check on the max amount of friends item, in the memberlist. (Will open new topic for this)

However, when You have created the profiletypes You want, payplans with the 'profiletype app' does the rest...

I also use the 'joomla usertype app' of payplans, to also change the joomla usertype, so other components can also have different levens of acl with each profiletype. Browse through the app list of payplans. You will see a lot of apps You can probably use....

I did not integrate registration with payplans. Every new member gets basic profiletype. They can upgrade to a higher profiletype by paying. If they do not want to, no hassle with choosing....

I dont know which way of membeship You want, but take a look at payplans. It works fine with easysocial I can tell You ;-)

Before I forget, I want to add to this discussion, that I think it is not usefull for stackideas to implement such a membership system. Make it possible to integrate with 3th party software which can handle this, like payplans. That is good enough.

Creating such a system yourself, with all options of the competition, would be nice, but it will take a lot of time. Payplans is a complete software sollution. Creating such a thing will not be a matter of 100 hours. Things like payment providers to contact and other apps....it will take lots and lots of resources and time of the stackideas devolopment team. Time which can better be spend on other features, which easysocial is missing right now. People who want membership system can use payplans or other software. It can be done without stackideas software. Dont forget! It is not needed to do it yourself cause the sollution is already there with 3th party software. People who dont use it, rather have other features instead i think....People (like me) who wants a membership system on their easysocialsite, can do this with payplans. I would rather see the time of the devolopment team be spend on features that are really missing!

Just my 2 cents....

@cbais, I agree with you about Easysocial membership. Although it would be great to have an Easysocial native membership system, I'm afraid that most of us wouldn't be able to use it if it only support Easysocial.

Even if it was supporting Easyblog and Easydiscuss, it wouldn't be enough. So at the end why not living this to other extensions specialized in this. Yes it means paying for one more component but I don't see how Stackideas will continue developing new features without raising the price as well!

So if Stackideas decide to develop this, it will need to; or become an add-on user can install, or become a complete membership system which support other components. If not it will just be something that many of us cannot use, a "ghost" feature.

I personally would prefers Stackideas to push for "pages" than membership! as this is something nobody else can do

cbais wrote:
Creating such a system yourself, with all options of the competition, would be nice, but it will take a lot of time. Payplans is a complete software sollution. Creating such a thing will not be a matter of 100 hours. Things like payment providers to contact and other apps....it will take lots and lots of resources and time of the stackideas devolopment team. Time which can better be spend on other features, which easysocial is missing right now. People who want membership system can use payplans or other software. It can be done without stackideas software. Dont forget! It is not needed to do it yourself cause the sollution is already there with 3th party software. People who dont use it, rather have other features instead i think....People (like me) who wants a membership system on their easysocialsite, can do this with payplans. I would rather see the time of the devolopment team be spend on features that are really missing!

i totally agree - stack team, you have already not enough time too support all of your tools in a reasonable time, do not waste time on another tool!!!

Hello,

Thanks for the heads up guys. Really appreciate it. We will take this into consideration when developing a component/features.

n00bster wrote:

cbais wrote:
Creating such a system yourself, ...

i totally agree - stack team, you have already not enough time too support all of your tools in a reasonable time, do not waste time on another tool!!!

Until now I haven't ever been treated such like this absolutely fast and perfect response from Stackideas team. They never sleep, their response is so fast, that they help my project so much I have never imagined.

R B Agravat wrote:
Hi,
Yes definitely need a membership payment plan which possibility to associate with profile types and access levels.
Otherwise any have solutions available at the moment?

It is very simple for stackideas such an idea. We all need that And we wait for this because stackideas code is excellent, friendly and very very technically supported!

Thanks for the kind compliments Vaggelis

I just popped in here wondering how Membership is coming. I do hope that EasyBlog5 gets out the door soon so that more work can happen with EasySocial again!

Hello Sean,

Our priority in EasySocial 1.4 would be videos and if only we could have some additional time to port in the subscription system, we'll add it in. Otherwise it has to be pushed back a little.

Hi guys,

any ETA on EB5 and ES 1.4?

Also very keen on a membership option.

Thanks,

Andrew

Hello Mark,

I saw you guys updated roadmap for ES but did not see membership feature. I implore SI team to add Paid & Free membership offerings for our community members. This feature is most upvoted on uservoice page for the last 18 months. It does not even have to be extravagant to begin with. Just something that requires payment upon registration or upgrade to certain profile types for a specified time period. After time period expires, user must renew or is placed back to free membership profile type. We can control accesses and interaction limits from profile types and menu items. To start, add basic payment gateways support like PayPal, Google and 2Checkout. That's all.

Allowing us to monetize our communities with a native system gives us the most value because there is monetization, saved time, saved cost and less bloat from having to use 3rd party software. It is the most wanted feature and would cement EasySocial as the superior offering to JomSocial. I hope this can be included in 1.4.

We would really like a payment option where we could add plans linked to specific group categories. We would like to charge per Group rather than user based. When a user creates a Group they will be charged a monthly or annual subscription for the group.

Hi guys,

Justin here. Gosh, I didn't know that our users would love membership requests! I'll try to bring this up in the next meeting. However, looking at the tasks list, I'm pretty sure that for EasySocial 1.4, we will focus on videos first and will have to push the membership feature to the next major releases after EasySocial 1.4.

As for the release date, currently EasyBlog 5 is in the Alpha phase, and EasySocial 1.4 is under development. Do check out EasySocial 1.4's roadmap for our progress.

Let me know if you guys have any other inquiries pertaining to both EB5 and ES1.4 and I'll assist you accordingly. Thank you for your kind patience and support!

Justin, like John Leake said... Membership requirement has been on Voices for about 18 months already... Do you guys really look at and make use of Voices or are we just adding things to a black hole by adding it to Voices....? After all, we would like to help you and at the end of the day help all users cumulatively by using a system like Voices.

So this comment is a bit of a surprise:

"Gosh, I didn't know that our users would love membership requests!"

I think the users would like to see the suggestions on Voices coming back on your Roadmaps... Well, at least for us this would be great.

We do appreciate your efforts, but we feel a bit in the dark with the lack of ETAs etc....

Please, dont spend valuable development time of the stackideas team to something that is already possible! Easysocial combined with payplans (http://www.readybytes.net) works like a sharm! There are lots of features that easysocial is missing that are far more important. Things like photos in replies, photos in group topics, more advanced groups and so on.... (can think of a lot more missing features, but the point is clear I believer ;-))

Features that cannot be solved by using another piece of software. That's what makes those missing features more important then something like a membership system which can already be achieved by users who reallly need it (by using payplans software).

When easysocial has all the basic things in place, then it is time to invest energy in an integrated membership system. Not sooner. People who need a membership system right now, check out payplans!

Let me quote myself. Wrote this in this topic months ago:

wrote:
Creating such a system yourself, with all options of the competition, would be nice, but it will take a lot of time. Payplans from readybytes is a complete software sollution. Creating such a thing will not be a matter of 100 hours. Things like payment providers to contact and other apps....it will take lots and lots of resources and time of the stackideas devolopment team. Time which can better be spend on other features, which easysocial is missing right now. People who want membership system can use payplans or other software. It can be done without stackideas software. Dont forget! It is not needed to do it yourself cause the sollution is already there with 3th party software. People who dont use it, rather have other features instead i think....People (like me) who wants a membership system on their easysocialsite, can do this with payplans. I would rather see the time of the devolopment team be spend on features that are really missing!

Just my 2 cents....

Ahmad,

I agree with Andrew. Of course, memberships has been the most desired feature since I can remember viewing the voices page. If StackIdeas team is caught off guard with this revelation, I have to wonder if you guys have forgotten about the voices page or just disregard it? I commented here because after seeing the updated roadmap for EasySocial and no membership feature included I became discouraged since this feature has been promised since long ago. So what's the deal? Can we expect memberships?

cbais, adding memberships would probably consume less time than it was for adding events. It doesn't need to include a stockpile of plugins like PayPlans has. Just something basic to monetize our members interactivity. When I tried PayPlans a few years ago I thought it was overkill when you only need some basic membership functions. ES doesn't need to have all of those bells and whistles to allow us to monetize. PayPlans also slowed down my site. I found it to be more than I needed and not worth the performance loss. Maybe they improved that aspect. The less extensions installed the better, both from an update compatibility process and performance standpoint. After EB5 is finished, the team should have plenty of resources to spend on the features we both desire. But let's keep in mind that memberships is the top voted feature by the community so many disagree that it's not worth the time investment.

The point I tried to Make Ahmad, is that it is already possible to achieve with 3th party software, and therefor I would suggest to make it NOT the top priority to implement a membership system. It is true that payplans is a heavy piece of software. But it works and it does the job in combination with easysocial. My site is not noticable slowed downed by payplans.

If the idea of the membership system of stackideas is to NOT include a lot of payment providers and other apps for other 3th party software, I think it is of little use anyway. Ok, if You only use paypalls for example, it would be covering a lot of users. True. However, I use a small payment provider which has an app for payplans. Probably it will not come part of the stackideas membership system (because where will the stackideas team start and where doe they stop developing apps) and therefor such a membership system of stackideas will probably be useless for me. And next to me, also to a lot of other users whith the same needs..

So, something basic as You mention will be a good start of the membership system and indeed will not cost a lot of time. But, if Stackideas wants to make it useable for all users who needs such a membership system, they will slowly develop their own payplans software so to say. It will grow and grow untill it is as big as Payplans is :-)

If they keep it basic, sooner or later a lot of people will have to switch to payplans anyway. A basic system is not enough in my opinion. How about a chatbox on Your community? I want to have the webcams voor paying members only. This piece of chatsoftware is not from stackideas. Will stackideas implement an app for other many used software aswell for the membership system?

Regarding Your statement: "so many disagree that it's not worth the time investment."
When reading the forum, including this topic, You will also notice that many do agree :-).

Bottom line:
It is up to the stackideas team and I do agree with You, if it is high in the voices, it should be adressed. Weather I will use it or not ;-)
I just hope they will address other missing features sooner then the membership system.....because those other missing features cannot be implemented by using a 3th party component. But that is just my thought....

Hey guys,

Thank you for all of the responses. The developers are all aware of the membership request from our users. However, we're currently trying to get 'Videos' out as soon as possible as we believe this is also one of the main feature needed in a social networking.

We do have our own, internal issue tracking where we have a section just for 'suggestions'. I can see, in that page, that 'membership' is a part of it, though it is not planned for EasySocial 1.4. I am not allowed to disclose any information from this screen, but I believe it is suffice to say that we're planning on putting it somewhere in EasySocial 2.x.

In short, we take all of our user's opinion into consideration; it's just that we need to get videos out first, then we'll plan on the next release by dividing the tasks to our developers.

Thanks Ahmad. I just want to be sure memberships are still on the agenda as this was one main attraction to wait for with EasySocial. I'd prefer if they were included in 1.4 but if they must be pushed to 2.x I'll wait. I know this is a dicey question to attempt to answer but, is there any ballpark estimate of when ES 1.4 and 2.0 will be released? I suspect 1.4 will come out this summer. Can we expect 2.0 in 2015?

No problem John. Thank you for your kind patience and understanding.

It is quite hard for me to answer those questions, as I am not allowed to disclose any dates without the approval of the development team. I'd say that once EasyBlog 5 is out, we'll put more focus on EasySocial 1.4; currently the development for the latter is not as fast as usual due to the fact that EasyBlog 5 is taking lots of the developer's energy.

@cbais

Thought I'd see if you could give us some ideas here on the following:

We would really like a payment option where we could add plans linked to specific group categories. We would like to charge per Group rather than user / profile based. When a user creates a Group they will be charged a monthly or annual subscription for the group. Would also be great if one could have the cost set at Group Category level.

any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks...

cbais wrote:

Payplans works like a sharm. I have integrated Easysocial & easydiscuss with payplans.

Just create some easysocial profiletypes with differtent limits. Let say for example that You want to create 3 profiletypes in easysocial:
- basic (free)
- silver ($ 20 a year)
- gold ($ 40 a year)

Create the basic profiletype. Save this one 2 extra times. Rename the other two to silver and gold. This way You make sure that the custom fields appear the same throughout the profiletypes! Important!

Do some finetuning at the profiletypes. For example, add a custom field which tells which profiletype it is, and offcourse, edit the access rights of each profiletype. For exampe; basic can have 10 pictures on their profile, silver 100, gold unlimited. Do this for all properties You want to have different between the profiletypes...Paying members can do more is the idea ;-)

I did found a bug in one of the limits of easysocial profiletypes. If You limit the amount of friends in a profiletype to lets say 3. Members cannot add friends anymore when they have 3 (or more) friends. When they try it on a userprofile, they see a warning that they have reached their limit. However, when they go to the memberlist, they can still invite people to become friends. There looks to be no check on the max amount of friends item, in the memberlist. (Will open new topic for this)

However, when You have created the profiletypes You want, payplans with the 'profiletype app' does the rest...

I also use the 'joomla usertype app' of payplans, to also change the joomla usertype, so other components can also have different levens of acl with each profiletype. Browse through the app list of payplans. You will see a lot of apps You can probably use....

I did not integrate registration with payplans. Every new member gets basic profiletype. They can upgrade to a higher profiletype by paying. If they do not want to, no hassle with choosing....

I dont know which way of membeship You want, but take a look at payplans. It works fine with easysocial I can tell You ;-)

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