By Altitudes on Thursday, 04 December 2014
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Hello,

When a user creates an event in a closed group, this event does not appear in the group timeline for other group members. They first need to attend the event before the event appears in the group timeline.

Events created in closed groups appear as closed events (sounds logical ;-), maybe this is why.

You don't have this problem with events created in open groups (appearing as open events).

Thanks!

(Running latest EasySocial v1.3.13)
Could not agree more

Since the solution seems to be to have open events, I created the following Feature Request in Voices:
Create open Events in closed Groups
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Monday, 08 December 2014 02:57
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Hello,

It is purposely like that. It is because, like you said, logically, when you are in closed group, the event will be closed as well.
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Friday, 05 December 2014 18:20
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Hello,

I am sorry, but it does not sound logical when an event is created in a closed group. When you create an event in a closed group, you would expect that the event appears in the group timeline so that the groups members can see it and attend... Don't you think?
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Friday, 05 December 2014 23:14
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Hello,

I am sorry but unfortunately right now this is the current behavior for the events in a closed group.
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Saturday, 06 December 2014 00:47
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So I have a serious problem because I use closed groups mainly for organizing events. And if events don't appear in the group timeline then this is an issue for me. Should I make a uservoice for that? Do you agree that it makes sense?
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Saturday, 06 December 2014 01:20
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Hello,

Yep, you could submit for a feature request and based on popularity of your request, we'll see if we should update it in the future. However, just for your information, there's a lot more complications to this and it's mostly related to the "SQL" performance when we need to retrieve "stream items".
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Saturday, 06 December 2014 01:22
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Hello

Another solution would be that you allow us to create open events in closed groups.

I did some tests by forcing the type of an event created in a closed group:
UPDATE j25_social_clusters SET type="1" WHERE ... forced the event to be an open event.

Then the event appears in the group timeline to every group member.

Then I tried to access to the event (using its URL) with a user who was not a member of the group. The access was refused which is fine.

So now I see 2 possible enhancement requests:
1- Show closed events in user timelines when the user is invited to the event (would apply to both personal and group events) or
2- Allow the users to define type when an event is created in a group: "Open Event" / "Closed Event" and possibly "Invite Only Event"

My choice would be 2-. In fact I don't understand why you removed the "Event Type" option for events in groups. The only difference with personal events (not created in groups) should be that a user can access this event only if he is a member of the group (whatever is the type of the event, open or closed).

Reintroducing "Event Type" option for group events seems quite easy to do for you. But I can understand that you first need to check that it does not messes up everything. And if you do so, beware that today when you change the type of a group e.g. from open to closed, its events are updated as well from open to closed (and vice versa).
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Sunday, 07 December 2014 06:17
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Hello,

I am really sorry for the delay of this reply as it is a weekend for us here. Hm, enforcing the event to open when the group is closed doesn't actually make sense because then this basically means that anyone can view a closed group's event
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Sunday, 07 December 2014 20:44
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Users not in the group won't see this event even through it is open. I tested it, see my previous post.

I see 2 major advantages of having open events in closed groups:
- it allows the event to appear in group timeline (closed events don't)
- it allows a user who joins the group after the event was created to attend the event (if the event is closed, he can only "Request to Attend" because he was not invited when the event was created)
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Sunday, 07 December 2014 21:02
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@Altitudes it would of course be valuable to allow all members of a "closed group" to see all "group related events". Just one example: what if a teacher made a closed group for their class and also created events for the class (a field trip, after-school activity, exam). The teacher would want a later member of the closed group (i.e. a student registers later) to be able to see and attend all existing events.
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Monday, 08 December 2014 02:19
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Hello Eileen,

Thanks for the information.
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Monday, 08 December 2014 11:20
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