By Josh Lewis on Thursday, 05 November 2015
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I've noticed for a while that it seems that there are some voice pages that disappear. I understand that some may be removed by the user or because they are not in favor of the community. However it seems that perhaps there is a glitch in the system that purges voice pages?

Here's a list of three voices pages of mine that disappeared:
http://stackideas.com/voices/easysocial/item/564
http://stackideas.com/voices/easysocial/item/721
http://stackideas.com/voices/easysocial/item/625


Perhaps there is a hidden record for these? Below is three links that correlate to the voice pages.

http://stackideas.com/forums/cleaner-url-s-through-all-of-easysocial
http://stackideas.com/forums/photos-centralized-within-a-single-menu-item
http://stackideas.com/forums/group-custom-fields

All three of those had a decent amount of supporters/votes and was aimed directly to create the greatest good for the greatest number of people.
Hi Josh,

Em, if i recall correctly, we dont actually purge the items in our voice page. We will investigate as why these items is no longer appear in our voice page.

Thanks for reporting this to us. We will update here again once we've figure out why these items got missing

Thanks and have a nice day!
Sam
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Thursday, 05 November 2015 12:29
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Hey Sam, is there some sort of "deleted record" of the three voice pages that I linked to? Joomla for example stores "deleted articles" until you click the permanently delete option.
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Monday, 09 November 2015 12:44
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Hi Josh,

I am sorry for the delay of this reply as I just got back from Joomla! world conference in India

Hey Sam, is there some sort of "deleted record" of the three voice pages that I linked to? Joomla for example stores "deleted articles" until you click the permanently delete option.


Currently the voice page will move save the 'deleted' items into 'trash' state like how Joomla did. When author delete their voice item, it will directly delete from the database.

I am still checking this issue as i do not have the access yet to our live site database

I will update you regarding this matter shortly

Thanks and have a nice day!
Sam
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Monday, 09 November 2015 16:31
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I did not delete any of those voice pages. Understandable if you do not have access. One idea I suppose is if this could be forwarded to a staff member who does have access. Not trying to pick favorite staff members Sam, I've always enjoyed your positive replies and great support!
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Monday, 16 November 2015 14:01
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Hi Josh,

Thanks for the clarification. Haha no worry. Anyway i got the access to the database and to my surprise, the items that you'v mention are no longer in the database I still puzzled as why this is happening. Someone also reporting this same but when i check, the item wasn't saved in the database. I am keeping my eyes on this matter and hopefully I can figure out why this is happening.

By the way, if those items are created by you and if this is not too much to ask, maybe you can recreate your feature request in our voice page again? I apologise for any inconvenient that may have caused to you.

Hope this help and have a nice day!
Sam
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Monday, 16 November 2015 14:10
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I recently submitted a voice page regarding pagination, it too disappeared. I should have made a backup of the text. Is there a "deleted record" for it? I'm assuming it too disappeared. Assuming this issue keeps going on, I might try to find a pattern. Perhaps things like "does new incoming voices override older ones based on a hidden unexpected voice number constraint", "does only voices with replied get affected", or "votes affecting which ones remain". I know these are not intentional things, but could play a role just how a new comment on the EasySocial stream affect the order of stream items loading. This is the first time I've had a stream item disappear this fast to my knowledge.
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Thursday, 19 November 2015 08:30
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Hi Josh,

I am so sorry regarding the missing item on our voice page. I was able to access the 'pagination' voice you created on last few days until you notify me about this missing item and now I am not able to access anymore

I am still investigating as why these items went missing. There are no one working / moderating on the voice pages at the moment. Anyway, i created a test voice http://stackideas.com/voices/easydiscuss/item/953 and i did some test e.g add reply and delete my reply, vote this post and it seems the item is still there. You may playaround with this test voice and see if we can replicate the issue or not.

I will continue to monitor this issue and hopefully i can figure out what causes these voice items got removed from the system.

Thanks again for your effort on this matter

Have a nice day!
Sam
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Friday, 20 November 2015 10:49
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Sam, your voice page disappeared! Seems like we have some pointers to identifying the issue.
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Tuesday, 24 November 2015 05:41
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Hi Josh,

Thanks for reporting my missing voice item. I've check again our voice system and the only place user can delete a voice is via the controller. I've added logging on voice deletion and we will see how or what is actually deleting the voice item from our site.

Again, I've created another voice test. http://stackideas.com/voices/easydiscuss/item/958

Thank you very much for assisting me on this matter
Sam
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Wednesday, 25 November 2015 11:35
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