By Luc Le Lievre on Wednesday, 29 October 2014
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Hi Stackideas, (and others too)

Having played around with EasyBlog and EasySocial for while I have to say that im pleased on how nicely things work and the details some of the things are worked out. Nevertheless I have a few remaining questions on the concept how I should best use this. Especially the nice way how your media manager is integrated in the article creation is nice. I never understood why other (ad Joomla as such) never di so, so im very glad to see you guys (and ladies maybe too) have done a nice job on that. So please don't take this as a complaint, im learning this as I write, but want to make sure I set this up in the right way.
Apology for the lengthily write up here.....

Our site is mainly a family blog we maintain as our friends and family are a little spread around the globe. At the same time its (is the intention) useful to use our site to also have photo albums and info shared with day to day friends and friends of friends.

So the team blogs feature seems to me - correct me if not right - the best way to split friends from family, who can see what on our blog entries. And based on who I add to which team blog they can either see one the family blog or the friend blog, or both depending to which blog they are members of. (and a private one for even just our own home-blog items.

But now on events and albums. What would be the best way to manage the visibility of albums and/or events? Events I could somehow manage with just allowing those to subscribe that we want. That would not be too complicated and limiting, but albums Im stuck. If I add albums to events, then the albums don't show up in the album overview or I can't use those albums in the media manager when writing articles. And I can't manage who can see what albums.

When I create generic albums I can't specify who has visibility to these albums. As I understand I can't assign groups to albums. So how would be the best way that "family" can see all, but that "Friends" can only see a selection of the albums?

So what way would be the best way to organise the albums and events? Any suggestions (even with a plugin or something else) And/or will a future version solve this so I don't bother much now and way (a little). When I set this up I don't want to do it all over again if you guys have something in the making for a future version, so would appreciate if you can guide me in the right way here so it might work now, and is easy to adopt to maybe something in the future you guys may have on this (I know things may change voer time etc.)

Thanks for your feedback and suggestions, and the time to read and reply.

Regards,
Luc

PS: Just read your update on Group Social Events. So thats one way to limit the Events per group, nice. Would still appreciate some advise/suggestion on how to best go forward with the albums. (How would you do that today)
Hi Luc,

Thank you for your responses. Well, the reason for my suggestion is that you have plans on moderating multiple group on more than one of our component (EasySocial and EasyBlog). This is actually the main reason as to why I suggested for you to use ACL instead of the group's team blogging. With ACL, it's easier for you to limit your user's access to certain area of the component.
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Monday, 03 November 2014 11:08
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Hi Luc,

Thank you for your inquiry. I'm Justin, one of the marketing guy for Stack Ideas. Pleased to meet you virtually.

I've gone through your post and it from what I understand, you wishes to have two groups of people with two sets of different permissions (family and friends), correct? It is correct for you to use the team blog option, but instead of adding up the users in each team, I'd suggest for you to add up an ACL group in it. You could make two ACL groups; Friends and Family, and then assign the ACL groups to the respected team blog. It easier this way because you can control each group's permission via the ACL setting.

As for the albums, I've discussed this with our developer and it appears that currently it would be quite impossible for you to restrict photo albums based on the Joomla User Group that a person is currently in.

I hope these answers your question. Do let me know if you have any further inquiries and I'll be more than happy to assist you with it.
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Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:04
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Ahmad,

Thanks for the clarification and suggestion. May I ask if there is then also a way to limit each user of a specific team blog to post/write only to his team blog and not site wide?

Thanks and regards,
Luc
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Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:03
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Hello Luc,

I am really sorry but unfortunately right now it's not possible to restrict users to their teams only. They will still have the ability to select "Site wide".
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Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:04
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Mark,

Thanks for the clarification. Is there a way to change the default so that I can avoid that it doesn't go site wide just because they forgot to set it to their team blog? Or can I change the default or anyone to change to a different value then side wide?

Regards,
Luc
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Friday, 31 October 2014 07:15
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Hello Luc,

Hm, unfortunately right now you can't actually change the default to team blog because if a user belongs to multiple teams, there's no way to know which is his "primary" team.
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Friday, 31 October 2014 12:26
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Hi Mark,

Ok, understand, maybe there could be a preferred teamblog setting on the profile, with a fall back to site wide if it wouldn't exist anymore.

Btw... is any of that in plan to be enhanced in EB5? ;-) being able to link (limit) a user more within its own team blog. ( I know plans may change etc...)

Regards,
Luc
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Friday, 31 October 2014 17:05
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Ahmad, Mark,

In your initial reply you mentioned that you would suggest to create an ACL for each group "instead" of adding the individuals to each team blog.
May I ask for the clarification/reasoning of that please? That may help me forward in the right direction to set it up maybe and better understand the +/- of each.

Thanks,
Luc
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Monday, 03 November 2014 05:47
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Ahmad,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I can zee this working on the modules and features, but how would i them select who can read which blog entries?
Regards,
Luc
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Monday, 03 November 2014 13:44
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Hi Luc,

No problem.

You can control which ACL group can read which blog entries by using the 'Category' function. Navigate to your backend > Component > EasyBlog > Categories.

From that page, click on the categories that you've created and click on the 'Category Access' tab. Click on the 'Privacy' drop-down menu and choose 'Assigned Joomla User Group'. A new option should appear; "View the blog posts" and "During blog creation / edit". From here, you can assign user groups to the function that you wish for them to have.

Do try it out and let me know on the outcome.
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Monday, 03 November 2014 17:09
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Hi Ahmad,

Thanks for the tip, I tried it with the categories and works well, so instead of using different team blogs I can now actually just use one blog and have the users read it based on the category....

But... you have me on a spin now

As you mentioned this would exactly be easier because I have to moderate it over EB and ES. So I have then one more questions.

I also use Groups in ES to ig add Albums in the groups so that each type of user is added to a different group and accordingly can see the photo albums of that group, but not the other albums of the other groups. Is there also a way to do this based on ACL, or is there a way that a user can be added automagically into an ES group when they register?

Currently (and also before i used ACL as you mentioned), users have to first register on the site with a specific profile type, and once approved, submit the request to join an ES group, so they have to do this in two steps.
So would there be any way either by ACL or by automatically joining a group (or any other great tip) that the user could see or join items from a specify group based on their profile type?

Thanks!

Regards,
Luc
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Tuesday, 04 November 2014 07:41
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Hi Luc,

Thank you for your inquiry. I'm sorry as currently there's no way for you to automagically assign a registered user to a specific group; you will have to manually assign them via the backend.
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Tuesday, 04 November 2014 12:27
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Ahmed,

Thanks for the quick reply. Ok, so will do that manually then for now. Sure one day that will change .

Thanks again and have a nice day,

Regards,
Luc
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Tuesday, 04 November 2014 13:44
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No problem Luc
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Tuesday, 04 November 2014 13:53
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