By P Hughes on Tuesday, 14 July 2015
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Its probably easier for me to ask this here instead of searching through the backend of my site.

I have an article on my frontpage and since i have installed latest update the easysocial stream is telling me that who ever logs into site is reading that article. Is there a way to switch this off?

Is it a joomla plugin i need to edit, or one of the easysocial apps?

Thanks

Steve
Hey Steve,

Are you referring to the Joomla article? You can go to your Applications > User - Article app and disable it from the stream settings
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Tuesday, 14 July 2015 23:53
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Hi Mark,

please be so kind and if you add new features in an update, DON`T ACTIVATE THEM BY DEFAULT!
It is terrible that some things happen on the website, that should not happen, and it is a horror to check all settings after each update.
In addition to that, this app seems buggy, because it does not behave like it should in the settings.

Think about the following:

1. I simply updated a minor ES-Version to the most recent one.

2. The next day users asked me why there are masses of articles on the frontpage. In fact, there where articles from the menues taken to the frontpage, this includes acticles that should NOT be accessable through a menu. Think about a newsletter-confirmation-page for example.

3. Users are very sensible about theire privacy. They don´t want to share automatically everything they are reading. I totally understand that!

4. Buggy!
This are the default-settings when I first openend the app:



a) It is NOT a standart-app. Neverthenless, it posted "read"-activities to the stream.
b) It is marked as NO posting to the stream. But it does.
c) It is marked to NOT post a READ on the stream, but it does.
d) There is NO LIMIT about the size of an article. This blows the stream up like hell.


To make that clear:
The app is nice and I am sure I will find a nice way to use it!

but

Activating it without any notice to the admin, with (bad) default-settings and with bugs in the settings includet is not a good way to give benefits to the admins.

I would suggest one of the following two ways to promote new apps and still respect the admins using ES:


If you add a new app in a release, don´t activate it by default, instead give the admin a note about "new app available"
If you add a new app, ask the admin during installation if he want´s to have it activated and/or let him choose the settings for the app before activating!


The apps for my opinion are one of the weakest parts of ES.
I have something about 100 Apps in my ES-Installation and I have no Idea how to sort me through.
They have names like "User-Feeds" or "User-Notes" or "Group-URL" or "Event-Boolean" and I have no clue what they are doing. I find no way to sort them and there are "Groups", "Events" and "Users" mixed as well as "Apps" and "Fields".

When I for example want to change something about Stream-Items ... how can I search for all apps posting items to the stream? The section of the backend is called "Apps" but there are "Apps and Fields", why that?

How should an average Admin unterstand this masses of things in the "App"s-Section?
This section of EasySocial is a part that I try not to think about. And if you in addtition autmatically activate apps without any information, you mess this thing up a lot.

Please find time in one of the next releases to raise the usability of this section, and until then don´t activate any new things without giving any information to the admin.

All the best, Julian!
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Saturday, 01 August 2015 10:12
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Hey Julian,

I am really sorry for the delay of this reply as it is a weekend for us here. Thanks for the heads up on the "default" state of the app. I am looking into this as it shouldn't be activated by default. The reason that it was activated by default was because a couple of our customers were complaining that apps should be enabled by default. They find it difficult to enable it themselves.

As for filtering the apps, you can already make use of the filtering that is available on the Apps listing I don't see why it is difficult to filter them by apps or fields and by types of apps, be it for user, group or event.
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Saturday, 01 August 2015 14:11
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As for filtering the apps, you can already make use of the filtering that is available on the Apps listing I don't see why it is difficult to filter them by apps or fields and by types of apps, be it for user, group or event.


1) I don´t understand why "apps" and "fields" are in the same place
2) I don´t know what which app is doing. The name is not self-explainable.
3) There is no way to sort for "apps posting on the stream", "apps showing something in the profile", "apps doing anything else"
4) There is no way to sort for apps belonging to any other extension
5) There is about 100 entrys.

The reason that it was activated by default was because a couple of our customers were complaining that apps should be enabled by default.


This might be nice on a new installation.
But having to check ALL SETTINGS after EVERY SMALL UPDATE is definitely not a good way.
I can imagine, that much more admins will complain about turning features on without any note to the admin.

In addition to that, it is a very sensible point in many terms. Imagine, there are "hidden" articles that are not linked to the menu. Imagine, there are articles that are hidden to certain user-groups. Imagine, there are users that don´t want others to see what they read.

With the settings "on" by default, you are directly forcing all admins to use them or if they don´t want to they have to search the whole changelog for what "could probably" be an unwanted installation.

Think about your windows-installation. What, if Microsoft decides to publish a new reporting-feature, a new network-share-thing and other stuff. Would you like to have all new features to be enabled by default, if you only make a little maintenance-update on your system? How often is Apple introducing new features on the iPhone? Do you want to have all new features on your smartphone enabled by default?

I totally understand that you as a coder have a different view of it. But please keep in mind: Do you really want to force your customers to check every single setting after every single update? Is it a good way to introduce new settings to external websites without giving the admin a chance to check if he likes to have them?

An easy was for the few users could be to simply add a little liste with all new features, so they can activate them with a click or something like that. But I think it is the wrong way to activate features without asking. And I would really wonder if most other admins like it to have new features activated by default ...

All the best, Ju lian!
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Saturday, 01 August 2015 14:38
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Thanks for the heads up on this Julien, appreciate your insights on this matter
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Sunday, 02 August 2015 00:37
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