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Suggestion on Clarification of wording to cut down support questions about the Easydiscuss Content plugin

Where should the article be stored? Tool Tip - Select which category should the article be stored in

To add some clarity I suggest the following wording in the Basics options.

Store article in what Easydiscuss category? Tooltip - Enter one category ID here.

Screencast: http://screencast.com/t/esCYyG6b

Any time clarification of wording in Option Parameters makes it easier it cuts down on Support queries. Just thought I would add this suggestion. All other options appear to be real clear.

Randall

2 ideas:
1 - if you got different content in your blog categories it might be hard to find a global one for the comments. so it would be great to link different blog categories to easydiscuss categories insted of pulling everything in a single one.

2 - after enabling the plugin all blog entries where automatically created as categories. Now the result is that there are perhaps hundreds of new discussions - all empty and doing nothing. wouldn't it be better that a discussion is created ONLY when someon's commenting for the first time? so there aren't hundreds of empty entries in the forum which is always looking bad

just found a problem with the plugin:
after submitting a comment the layout breaks (gets doubled). I attach you some screenshots which should explain it good.

On my test site, blog entries create new discussions but they continue to use EasyBlog's commenting system rather than using EZD for comments. The plugin is published so I am not sure if I am missing some other setting.

There also seems to be an issue with the discussions count. It seems discussions created using EasyBlog are counted correctly but discussions created using Joomla articles are not part of the count. The discussions are created but not counted.

Hello Vicente,

You actually need to disable the comments in EasyBlog first. After disabling the comments in EasyBlog, the comments will be used from EasyDiscuss instead.

As for the incorrect counts, would it be possible to create a separate thread and include the site's access as well?

Hi Mark,

I'll create another thread for the count issue, but disabling comments in EasyBlog doesn't do the trick. I continue to have these two issues on a new Joomla install and will login credentials in the new post.

Hello Vicente,

Thanks for the heads up! I'll take a look at your issue as soon as the day start. It's a little late right now and it's the weekend for us here.

I'm planning on using this on a review site. The only problem I see is that I have review comments, and then I would have normal comments for discussions about the product. I was hoping their would be some sort of syntax {easydiscuss} so I could place the comments anywhere; for example tab1=review&comments tab2=discussions. Can this be added to the todo list for the future?

Hello Al,

Does these module triggers content plugins?

I think there are some issues with the Article Comments (EasyDiscuss plugin).

I was testing EZD 2 on a site to see how it would look and when I tried to open the About Us article page, which usually opens real quickly, it took almost 3 minutes. I thought it was the server, but then when I checked the page I found all of this below.

See the screencast for more details. The plugin is acting real strange, so I will have to remove it until it is fixed.

Hello Randall,

Thanks! I am currently trying this locally

Is it possible to hide the questions / comments on the articles? i.e. just have a link to the relevant discussion.

Additionally, since we have very long articles, it would useful [as mentioned above] if the relevant section can be quoted in EasyDiscuss; maybe the questioner can select / highlight the section the question is related to?

Likewise, since our articles are often lecture transcriptions and have many questions, it would be great if there can be multiple questions / answers per article.

Thanks!

We have also noted that somehow, article authors are automatically being added as questioners. For example, we have lots of articles by two authors. Since activating the plugin, we looked at the Members list to see who has posted the most, and these two authors appear with 50+ questions, but neither have written any questions. The list of their questions shows a list of articles. It seems that as the plugin becomes aware of articles (by people reading them I guess). Now it is adding all the articles from the site into "Unresolved" discussions! (We have several thousand articles.........)

Hello,

The plugin will actually create new discussions for your articles that you create on the site and map it back into EasyDiscuss allowing you to link your article to the discussions That's the whole idea of the plugin actually

As currently designed, it adds several thousand empty discussions to EasyDiscuss, as well as describing the article authors as "questioners" all of which would be quite confusing to our visitors.

We like the idea of readers being able to ask a question about an article and have the link made at that time (plus, as we mentioned above, the possibility of multiple, separate questions per article). If it is possible to modify the functionality per the comments we made in the posts above, we would love to use the plugin.

Hello,

There's a bug actually in the article plugin which I'll be updating very shortly. The bug in the previous version is that it keeps generating new discussions when you post a comment (Not sure if this is the behavior you are referring to) But the idea of this plugin is,

1 new discussion will be created for 1 article. Which also means that if you have 100 articles in your Joomla site, you will see 100 discussions in EasyDiscuss.

is there a method to import from other plugin comments ? ,I use JoomlaComment.

thx

Also more important,can u add the possbility to edit comments ???

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another thing "least importnat" can u add the social integration to the comments.

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regarding the copying it to the main disscussions,if I use special codes in the artilces,it will be exposed into easydiscuss ??? is this avoidable,for example {option to provide only the link to article without copying it ?}

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can u also add the option to select the categories the plugin should appear in,for example ,i don't want it to be in the about us page.

Hello Aelsharawi,

I am sorry but currently it can't import from another comment system. EasyDiscuss can only migrate contents from K2 at this point of time

Yeah, I'll try to add some of these social integrations in the comments Sorry but don't quite get you on the special codes though. Would you mind elaborating more on that please?

Yes, you can actually configure the plugin to only display in certain categories in Joomla.

I use xtypo,video player,..... for joomla, I write a special for these plugin to load proberly,when commenting system copies it to easydiscuss ,it will not load properly,

so

Instead I sugest to add just a link to the article or make easydiscuss display contents using the default joomla article content.

Hi this is what I have been looking for

However I would like to have it on only on a few specific articles, and those comments get stored in specific categories... but different category for each article....or is it possible to have multiple instances of the same plugin?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Dan

Hello!
I have installed easyDiscuss content plugin and configure it for com_k2. Now every browser reload with opened k2 article causes new discussion created on the same article. E.g. open in your browser next link
http://kaliningrad.selfip.net/joomla25/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=6
press [F5] several times and have some fun!

What's going wrong?

Hello Konstantin,

I've applied some patches on your site because the plugin wasn't updated in the forums yet. Can you give this a try again? By the way, is it possible for you to clear out the existing discussions to test this out?

Hello Konstantin,

Sorry for the delays. Is it possible for you to provide me with the FTP access to your dev site?

Hello Mark,

Delays aren't critical, it's OK. Belive me, your responses much more quicker than others developers I'm working with. Yes it is possible, but I'm never using FTP under Joomla because there is nice com_extplorer. It's already installed, so feel free to use it from adminpanel.

Otherwise, if you prefer direct FTP connectoin, I'll create it for you. Just ask for it.

UPD:
com_Extplorer do much things easy, because not all hosting-providers use suexec. So if a directory 755 created with ftp-user then Joomla can't write to it.

Hello Konstantin,

Yep, you are right! There was a problem with the checking on the "state" property. Since K2 doesn't use "state", this is failing on K2. I have added a fix on this and it should work fine now

New bug found.

Description:
1. Plugin automatically creates new discussion under article (Ok)
2. After some time past in adminpanel we've deleted this discussion (Ok)
3. Plugin can't again create discussion due to ##_discuss_posts_references still contains records on (discuss)posts which already had been deleted. (Bug)

Even there are no any (discuss)posts exists, references table contains all history which normally has to be deleted. Let's do db request and see that it is true:

select * from `##_discuss_posts` limit 0,100 ..

No data returned

select * from `##_discuss_posts_references` limit 329,3

id post_id reference_id extension
330 1677 1 com_content
331 1679 4 com_k2
332 1681 3 com_k2

Because of this, the plugin think that discussion already exists and returns nothing:

/plugins/content/easydiscuss/easydiscuss.php:149
147 // Get the mapping
148 $ref = DiscussHelper::getTable( 'PostsReference' );
149 $exists = $ref->loadByExtension( $article->id , $this->extension );

here we get $exists = 1 and next we don't need to map anything:

/plugins/content/easydiscuss/easydiscuss.php:151
151 if( !$exists )
152 {
153 // Map the article into EasyDiscuss
154 $this->mapExisting( $article );
155
156 $ref = DiscussHelper::getTable( 'PostsReference' );
157 $ref->loadByExtension( $article->id , $this->extension );
158 }

And as a conclusion we trying to load post with not existing id:

/plugins/content/easydiscuss/easydiscuss.php:160
160 // Load the discussion item
161 $post = DiscussHelper::getTable( 'Post' );
162 $post->load( $ref->post_id );


Possible solution:
##_discuss_posts_references must be checked for orphaned entries when user delete discussion.

Thank you.

Hello Konstantin,

Yep, correct! This is actually fixed internally when a discussion is deleted It will be fixed in the next version of EasyDiscuss.

Hi,

This is a great plugin. What would it take to make this work with Yootheme ZOO?

Rene

Hello Mark,

As I said before, I have some ideas about this plugin and K2:

1) Plugin in current state not quite suit com_k2 because it allows indpended usage from com_k2's native comments. It's bad - you can't control it with k2 config. By the way, plg_content_discuss appears in com_k2 article at the place where it should't be - right after fulltext.
I think about solution and I found only way to fork plg_content_discuss to plg_k2_discuss which suits com_k2 only. Why? Because com_k2 uses self items and events structure which differs form com_content so I think that it will be better to use it separately. I decided to rewrite source of plg_content_discuss to see if it possible to replace native com_k2 comments using com_k2 events onAfterK2Save, onK2CommentsBlock, onK2CommentsCounter. Well I did that plugin and it seems to work well on my test environment. It should be attached below.

2) Category mapping. It is possible that someone sometime encounter with big broblem - all discussions from all components will be mixed in only one com_easydiscuss category. How to separate disussions from different com_content or com_k2 categories to different com_discuss ones? Maybe it should be mapping in plugin params? E.g. text field with content like "content:2,discuss:5;content:3,discuss:6;content:4,discuss:7;k2:1,discuss:1;k2:2,discuss:2;k2:3,discuss:3;k2:4,discuss:4;" wich intended to map categories. I have no idea how to make it, may be you have one, Mark?

Hello guys,

Oh wow, didn't know that this plugin has so much tractions I am not entirely sure how does K2 work but do they have some sort of comment triggers? I could add the codes back into our source but I'll give them a try again.

This is a really great plugin, if only it would work with Zoo and MosetsTree. Currently I have a forum and comments on my site, and this plugin makes at least one component irrelevant. Zoo has its own comments system and none of the current comment components integrate Zoo.... but Zoo's comment system doesn't integrate with Jomsocial. I managed to show Jomsocial avatars and a link to user's profile with a hack, but it's not satisfying. So this is my comment system #1. My comment component for other content is CompoJoom Comment and it integrates MostesTree but not Zoo. So this is my comment system #2. Additionally I need for every Zoo application and every CompoJoom Comment component integration an extra "Latest Comments" module. It's really crazy! Of course I would prefer one comments solution for all of my components, plus there will be a forum too... GREAT! But there are two problems on my side:

1. I have the mentioned bug with the doubled comments form too (currently only in EasyBlog because I use Zoo for articles, not Joomla), reported by Alex: http://stackideas.com/support/discussions/article-comments-easydiscuss-plugin.html#reply-21978

2. There is no integration with other components Are there any plans for the future? Please

BTW: The happy smiley looks like it would cry ->

Hello Noemi,

I am really sorry for the delay of this reply. As for the issues with double comments form, can I know when did you downloaded the files above? I have actually just uploaded a new copy about a couple of days ago. The integrations should be automated that is (If the component renders the content plugin, it should work out of the box )

Which delay, Mark? 30 Minutes is a really great respond time I downloaded the file in the first post today.

Oh, then is there a syntax like {easydiskuss} to place into content/code? I just did not quite understand your answer here: http://stackideas.com/support/discussions/article-comments-easydiscuss-plugin.html#reply-22338

Hello Noemi,

Unfortunately there's no codes to place to load up the comments but as long as Zoo or any 3rd party components triggers the content plugins (The plugins that are normally used to format contents), this plugin should work :P I believe Zoo does trigger's the content plugin so you might want to add "com_zoo" into the allowed section of the plugin parameters.

Hm, but there must be a way to tell Zoo or MosetsTree where to load the comments form, otherwise it won't work.

Hello Noemi,

The plugin will automatically detect this actually based on the object that is passed from the component. In this case, it's Zoo or Mosets Tree.

A clarification :
I had some articles with specific html code to display the jwplayer "http://www.longtailvideo.com/players/jw-flv-player/";

so when the easydiscuss comment is enabled in this article it will copy the article as it is ,and the code will not be translated by easy discuss to a flash video player.so it displays the ugly code,

is there any solution to that ?
e,g enable the comments on the article and at the same time prevents easydiscuss from copying the article to the discsussions ?

Hello Aelsharawi,

What you should try to do is to enable the content plugin triggers from the back end settings of EasyDiscuss and it will actually try to trigger the content plugins so that the contents would be passed over to the plugins.

Would it be possible to have this not add any articles automatically?

When I create an article in EasyBlog I have the choice to send it to twitter or Facebook.
can you add a 3rd option to have it go to EasyDiscuss?

This would solve the problem with hundreds of new discussions being added.
You could then just select the articles you want to have in your discussions.

Hello John,

Unfortunately it is not possible but I am looking at the possibility of allowing the admin or the author to specify certain codes like {easydiscuss} to generate a discussion instead. Will keep you updated when I have time to work on this plugin as currently I am quite tied up with the development of EasyBlog.

This is wonderful plugin and really makes it easy to avoid multiple commenting systems across a website.

I am just learning how to use Easy Discuss, and have more to learn. I noticed when a joomla article is published in a sub-category and someone comments on the article, there is a small glitch showing up in the Easy Discuss version of the article's 'read more' link, and I am not sure how to fix the conflict between my template and the plugin.

Would/could anyone shed some light or point me in the right direction to solve my issue?

Thanks,
Vineyardseashell

Hello,

Strange, can I know if you are using the bbcode editor or WYSIWYG for your main question posting?

Hi Mark,

I am using the BB code editor for the comments.

FYI: If I move the joomla article into the main category i.e.) Cows, that little code snippet immediately disappears.

Vineyardsesashell

Hello,

Strange, can you please provide me with the back end access to your site to check this out?

Hi Mark,

Info is attached.

Thanks,

Vineyardseashell

Hello,

This is an excellent plugin! But, I am having one problem... when the article automatically generates into EasyDiscuss it displays the actual url redirect link text (not clickable):

[url=...........[/url]

... rather than the actual link back to the article. Thoughts?

Thank you!
Sam

Hello Samantha,

I am really sorry for the delay of this reply as it is a weekend for us here. Would it be possible for you to provide me with the FTP access to your site?

Also, can I delete existing discussions on your site so that the plugin could re-create the discussions again?

FTP info attached. Thank you for your help! Another question... I don't really need all of the articles to go into the discussions area, but I do want the EasyDiscuss avatar to be used throughout the site when commenting on articles. Could Komento be used for this as an easier solution?

Hello Samantha,

Thanks for getting back to me on this. Can you give this a try again? I have applied a small fix on the read more

Seems to be working well! Thanks so much! About Komento... does it pull the EasyDiscuss avatar across to the article comments?

Hello Samantha,

Yep, you can configure Komento to pull avatars from EasyDiscuss

Thanks again! You've been awesome help. Might give Komento a try too.

Hello Samantha,

You are most welcome

Hi!
Thanks for plugin.
I want to ask you to add the following function - match Joomla category and categories EasyDiscuss.
For example, articles in Joomla category A will create topics in EasyDiscuss category B. If Joomla category 5 should create/map to topics in EasyDiscuss category 6 and Joomla category 7 should create/map to topics in EasyDiscuss category 10, enter 5,6;7,10; into the field using semi-colons to separate the pairs. Joomla categories not listed here will default to the value in the Default Forum Category field."

Hello rbak,

Thanks for the heads up on this. Will try to see how we could actually add this in the future versions of the plugin

I turned on the EasyDiscuss Article Comments plugin and it works except that the EasyBlog videos do not post into EasyDiscuss format. Easyblog uses an embed format and EasyDiscuss uses a [video]providervideourl[/video] format, so the video do not show up, and I have to go in a change it in each new discussion added.

Can it change the format automatically? If not, I will have to turn this feature off until it gets added.

Hello Randall,

I am sorry for the delay of this reply as it is a weekend for us here (Friday midnight to be precise ) I am sorry but I don't quite get you on this. Were you importing the comments from EasyBlog -> EasyDiscuss?

This is a great plugin.
I have 3 questions :

Is there a way to ask name and email for non-user to post comment ? (same question for reply in EasyDiscuss) ?
I can't see the Read More link, number of comments and hits in blog view like with Komento ?
I am using TinyMCE as defaut editor and when an article is created in discussions section I have a link "read more" showed in code at the end, is it normal ?

Hello Franck,

Thanks for the input.

Is there a way to ask name and email for non-user to post comment ? (same question for reply in EasyDiscuss) ?

I am sorry but unfortunately it is not possible right now

I can't see the Read More link, number of comments and hits in blog view like with Komento ?

Yes, you can actually depending on where you are integrating this into. If you are creating a front page view with the normal Joomla articles, you should see these links.

I am using TinyMCE as defaut editor and when an article is created in discussions section I have a link "read more" showed in code at the end, is it normal ?

Hm, it shouldn't behave this way actually. It should be based on your current settings. If you are using the WYSIWYG editor, it should include the html contents versus the BBCode contents.

Hi, Is there any easy way such as by adding few lines of code to trigger content plugin my template override files, so this plugin can be displayed on my docman details page?

Thanks

Hello scripto,

I have actually been trying to integrate Komento with Docman earlier but hit the dreadlock when there's actually no way to include the comments at the bottom of the document details. The only way to have the comments is to add them in the description area (which doesn't make sense). I've actually been in contact with Johan from Docman and he's working on an API to allow these integrations to happen

Its possible to enable this plugin in HWDMediashare component?

Hello Gildos,

I am really sorry but unfortunately it is not possible to work with HWDMedia share at this point of time

Where is the plugin for K2 Articles?

Hello Biju,

The article comments currently only works with EasyBlog and Joomla articles It does not support K2 yet.

ok thanks
I saw someone mention plg_k2_easydiscuss somewhere else and link to this thread.

No problem Biju. Hm, strange I don't recall of such plugins that we released

I ended up installing the version linked to at the first posting and had problems many of which appear to be reported.

Where can I find a current/updated version?

Hello Scott,

The installer in the first post above is actually the latest. May I know what problems are you facing with it?

For example I was getting the doubled up text boxes.

I have since reverted back to using komento since I am also using JEvents and would like consistency.

though an EasyDIscuss integration with JEvents would be kinda cool too! (hint hint hint).

Hi Mark,

I would like to make the plugin work with EasyBlog and have downloaded/installed the one in first post today.

But, I'm also getting the previously reported double text editor - how to avoid that?

I have disabled Microblogging, but get a Quick reply field.

When logging in I'm taken to the profile page - how to stay on the blog item page?

Kindly,
Carsten

Hello Carsten,

I am sorry for the delay of this reply, got hooked up with some calls earlier. Hm, there's actually some bugs with this beta plugin with the latest version of EasyBlog. I am working on a fix for this.

Me too. Just hooking me up so I will get notified when there is some news to this

Thanks for the support Michael

If there's anything that I can do to help to move this along, inclusive of financial support for development, please don't hesitate to let me know.

If you could help the earth to spinning a little slower that would be much appreciated (Just kidding), but yeah it's more of a "time" issue more than financial

I wish! Unfortunately, superman's dead... or we would be all set


I was just offering extra financial support in case you wanted / had the ability to hire some extra devs to see you through a short term crunch to catch up. I'm somewhat pressed for a couple of features such as this one, and with everything that you guys do for me and others, it seemed more than fair to offer to compensate your team for the extra push. If financial support can ever play into the speed of delivery for features such as this, please don't hesitate to let me know (I'll stop offering in threads).

Haha nice video! Really cool and Thank you very much for the offers

Hi there,

Brilliant idea. I hope I am not asking a question that was answered but at the top of the page it states that the plugin will work on Joomla articles and K2. The plugin only gives an option to 'fetch articles from this categories' (Joomla articles only).

Any idea why?

Hello David,

Unfortunately this doesn't work with K2 yet We're working on a content plugin for EasyDiscuss 3 which works on K2 and Joomla articles

Hi Mark, as 3.0 has been out for a while now I thought I would check back in with this thread as I need K2 functionality in order to make Easydiscuss viable for me, does the plugin now work with K2 for comments as well?

Hello,

Sorry we're still working on this There's quite a bit of change that's needed for this to work because we've revamped the way ED3 works

Hi Mark, just checking back in again as it has been another couple of months. Has the K2 content plugin now been updated to work with ED3?

regards

Hello Bungle,

Yep, you can download the plugin here, http://stackideas.com/forums/content-plugin-v3-alpha-for-easyblog,-joomla-articles-and-k2.html

Hi Mark, I don't have access to that page as I am not a subscriber as yet - I have been holding off because the old K2 plugin wasn't working and it is a requirement to make sure it works as needed.

I see it is in Alpha so I guess there are a few bugs needing ironing out of it yet, any chance I can try it/ see it in use somewhere please.

regards

Hello,

I have never heard from any reports from anyone so far so I guess it should be working fine I'd personally advise that you purchase the subscription for EasyDiscuss and if you have any issues at all, let us know and we'll fix it for you

Doesn't work with K2 + Joomla 3.

Hello,

This plugin is actually already outdated in favor of the new plugin at http://stackideas.com/forums/content-plugin-v3-alpha-for-easyblog,-joomla-articles-and-k2.html